2013 GT500 - 9.95 @ 142mph

[91CoupeMike]

You do know this isn't a new 5.8L, right?

What?

2013 gt500 = 5.8l Well it's acually a 5.9 but...

[BMCSean]

What?

2013 gt500 = 5.8l Well it's acually a 5.9 but...

Get in the zone......

[DON SVO]

What?

2013 gt500 = 5.8l Well it's acually a 5.9 but...

Bored 5.4L with GT supercar heads.

[91CoupeMike]

Bored 5.4L with GT supercar heads.

Yes Aka 5.8L.

It's not the new 6.2L if that's what you mean.



What you smoking don? Lol

[DON SVO]

Yes Aka 5.8L.

It's not the new 6.2L if that's what you mean.

Nah, the 2013 GT500 engine is a heavily modified 2012 GT500 engine... it retains the same 5.4L heads with some small modifications, it's the same 5.4L block with bigger pistons and spray bores. There's lots of expensive engineering tweaks, but it's still a bored-out 5.4L.

The Coyote is a totally different design.

[91CoupeMike]

Nah, the 2013 GT500 engine is a heavily modified 2012 GT500 engine... it retains the same 5.4L heads with some small modifications, it's the same 5.4L block with bigger pistons and spray bores. There's lots of expensive engineering tweaks, but it's still a bored-out 5.4L.

The Coyote is a totally different design.

Yes I know this.

What I was saying, not that it's possible but to take 6.2l displacement from the new 6.2 SOHC and somehow throw dohc coyote style heads on it.. Pretty much just make a larger displacement coyote engine w/ a tvs.

Put it in a new ford GT.. !

[DON SVO]

Yes I know this.

What I was saying, not that it's possible but to take 6.2l displacement from the new 6.2 SOHC and somehow throw dohc coyote style heads on it.. Pretty much just make a larger displacement coyote engine w/ a tvs.

Put it in a new ford GT.. !

I doubt Ford ever does anything like this. I've read up on Ford and their spray bore tech... They'll bastardize existing blocks before doing a big ass one-off for a specialty car. Not saying they might not produce the engine in some capacity for a longer-term project with lots of production (like the 5.4L started off as a truck engine and ended up in the 2000 Cobra R, for instance) but $$$-wise it doesn't make sense.

[91CoupeMike]

I doubt Ford ever does anything like this. I've read up on Ford and their spray bore tech... They'll bastardize existing blocks before doing a big ass one-off for a specialty car. Not saying they might not produce the engine in some capacity for a longer-term project with lots of production (like the 5.4L started off as a truck engine and ended up in the 2000 Cobra R, for instance) but $$$-wise it doesn't make sense.

That makes sense, do you think the ford GT will ever come back?

It has some pretty big shoes to fill being that fords main goal with any of the GTs is to beat Ferrari.. The 458 would be it's competition in today's world.. And that's a very awesome car.

[DON SVO]

That makes sense, do you think the ford GT will ever come back?

It has some pretty big shoes to fill being that fords main goal with any of the GTs is to beat Ferrari.. The 458 would be it's competition in today's world.. And that's a very awesome car.

If Ford were to produce another supercar, it would have to be something ferocious. I say that because the 'duh' would be to just compete with the ZR1, but GM has a big benefit to having the existing low-rent Corvette platform to work off of... Ford would have to compete with it and price it accordingly, which I imagine the accounting dept. would shit all over.

I wish Ford could produce a new 2 seater coupe that on the surface competes with the C6, 370z, Boxter S, BMW Z series etc, but like the Corvette has the capacity to be modified heavily and cheaply.

[quikag]

How much more power does a 6.0ls make over a 5.7ls? Or a 302 vs 331?

The ls9 is a bad bitch, but so is fords new 5.8.

If-if-if-if ford used a modified coyote head on thier current 6.2l truck engine and put a blower on it, how much power do you think it would make? I think a lot.

Not that this holds any weight, but I was reading an article in a truck magazine, it was the raptor engine (6.2l) vs the silverado (6.2l). Bone stock the ford made more power and torque by a conserible amount and it made the power lower in the rpm range.. So they put the same supercharger kit (centrifugal) on each truck, same boost ect.. And fords made a retarded amount more power them the GM, something like 50+ hp and Torque.. And that's ford SOHC, I wonder what It would do with DOHC VVT?

GM 6.2l is a nasty motor, OCII proved that to me in the "FRIDGE" for headers and a tune + w/e else it was moving for a big heavy pick up.

I heard the 6.2 truck engine in the new Ford pick-ups is based on old engine architecture (i.e not Coyote). Is the 6.2 Ford engine a bored and stroked 5.4 or what? I'm genuinely curious?

I'm just happy to see Ford back in the game with powerplants. They've been behind GM for quite a while with their old school 4.6 and 5.4 powerplants, so it's good to see these new 5.0 engines, newish 6.2 truck engines, and the 5.8 blown monster Ford is putting out nowadays.

Now, it's time for the Gen 5 small blocks to come out from GM and they will invariably raise the bar again. Competition is good.

[Rick Modena]

I'm just happy to see Ford back in the game with powerplants. They've been behind GM for quite a while with their old school 4.6 and 5.4 powerplants

Old school, son you need to go do some reading before you go flapping your gums about something you have no clue about. If anyones using a 'old school' design its chebby and their Ed Cole designed small block, homer...

[Mach1]

Old school, son you need to go do some reading before you go flapping your gums about something you have no clue about. If anyones using a 'old school' design its chebby and their Ed Cole designed small block, homer...

Lol wtf, i think he was using old school for comparison sake.
Lsx is more ford design than ed cole

[quikag]

Old school, son you need to go do some reading before you go flapping your gums about something you have no clue about. If anyones using a 'old school' design its chebby and their Ed Cole designed small block, homer...

I meant old school from a power output standpoint. Seriously, the 4.6 and the 5.4 engines were dogs compared to the 4.8, 5.3, 5.7, 6.0, 6.2, and 7.0 engines available from GM. Besides the blown 5.4 in the GT500/ Ford GT, nothing Ford made in the last 10+ years was over what 335hp in their 5.4 truck engine? Maybe the 6.8L V10 made a little more, but it was a torque engine in the trucks, not a drag racer.

So funny, I spout off stats, engine displacements, horsepower levels, etc. and I get these stupid responses like, "you don't know what you're talking about...you're ignorant, go do some reading, etc." and then said stupid responses list ZERO FACTS to substantiate the call-out.

I clearly know a little about what I'm talking about when I'm a GM guy, but still know quite a bit about Ford engine history, at least over the last 15-20 years.

[Broncojohnny]

I heard the 6.2 truck engine in the new Ford pick-ups is based on old engine architecture (i.e not Coyote). Is the 6.2 Ford engine a bored and stroked 5.4 or what? I'm genuinely curious?

I'm just happy to see Ford back in the game with powerplants. They've been behind GM for quite a while with their old school 4.6 and 5.4 powerplants, so it's good to see these new 5.0 engines, newish 6.2 truck engines, and the 5.8 blown monster Ford is putting out nowadays.

Now, it's time for the Gen 5 small blocks to come out from GM and they will invariably raise the bar again. Competition is good.

Just FYI, Ford already has a blown coyote engine in production in Australia too, it is in the Falcon GT. It only makes 449 hp which is kind of strange. I was kind of expecting them to try this route with the GT500 for 2013.

[OrangeChevyII]

They both make great power, it comes down to who can put it work. Mustamg vs Camaro....straight line Mustang FTW. Sorry, but it's true.


My personal experience, the Ls3 is a bad bitch. I know for a "Fact", they can make 800 rwhp and survive DD habits at ease. I know because I done it, beat the ever lasting shit out of it in a 4000 pound car. Missed shifts on a button and all.

Not only that, the car had two separate drivers. There wasn't a single time I got in the car and didn't take it to 7400 rpm at least once just rowing gears. I made passes at the track just to keep the rust off of me. Granite the wife would have divorced me if she knew. She didn't want me to drive so I didn't. He did.

I wouldn't call 800 rwhp Ls3 a max effort build, it was on pump gas for sure. We made that much power through the stock fuel system with nitrous. 542 all motor and 80x on the spray.

For you guys questioning either build is entertaining. Do a mod for mod pound for pound boost test and I believe you'll see the OLD pushrod motor works well enough to compete vs the coyote.