ZL1/GT500 on same dyno

[crapstang]

ZL1 people are majorly butthurt... their "it's supercharged" excuse is no longer valid...and they still have more cubes even then. Ouch.

[quikag]

It is because the Mustang tends to outsell the Camaro. Why do they need to try hard when they can just mail it in and still sell more? Recent years have seen that situation change to some degree and you see what Ford did to respond.

I still say the base Corvette coupe is the best car you can buy for the money. That is kind of my bottom line on this whole argument of money versus all around performance. It's like a sore dick, you just can't beat it. lol

I agree. Mustang has been outselling the Camaro forever until the new Camaro came out a few years ago and a combination of styling, decent V6, good LS3/99 engine, and pent up demand from the mullet crowd allowed the Camaro to take the crown. Just this past month (May), the Mustang outsold the Camaro for the first time since the new Camaro release.

I'll disagree just a tad on the base Vette comment. I think a relatively low option Grand Sport is actually the best overall performance package out there right now. It can do it all performance wise, and do it all day long on the track, for easily less than $50k OTD nowadays. Dry sump LS3, wide body, Z06 brakes/wheels/tires, TR6060, etc. Yum.

[whitetrash]

I agree. Mustang has been outselling the Camaro forever until the new Camaro came out a few years ago and a combination of styling, decent V6, good LS3/99 engine, and pent up demand from the mullet crowd allowed the Camaro to take the crown. Just this past month (May), the Mustang outsold the Camaro for the first time since the new Camaro release.

I'll disagree just a tad on the base Vette comment. I think a relatively low option Grand Sport is actually the best overall performance package out there right now. It can do it all performance wise, and do it all day long on the track, for easily less than $50k OTD nowadays. Dry sump LS3, wide body, Z06 brakes/wheels/tires, TR6060, etc. Yum.

for grand sport cost ild say shell out a few grand extra and get the Z06.

[dville_gt]

I agree. Mustang has been outselling the Camaro forever until the new Camaro came out a few years ago and a combination of styling, decent V6, good LS3/99 engine, and pent up demand from the mullet crowd allowed the Camaro to take the crown. Just this past month (May), the Mustang outsold the Camaro for the first time since the new Camaro release.

I'll disagree just a tad on the base Vette comment. I think a relatively low option Grand Sport is actually the best overall performance package out there right now. It can do it all performance wise, and do it all day long on the track, for easily less than $50k OTD nowadays. Dry sump LS3, wide body, Z06 brakes/wheels/tires, TR6060, etc. Yum.

i'll disagree again, a nice used 2008 base vette m6 is the best bang for the buck imo!

[akfodysvn]

grand sport has the widebody? just trying to learn more about the vette's ... sounds like a great bang for the $

[Broncojohnny]

I agree. Mustang has been outselling the Camaro forever until the new Camaro came out a few years ago and a combination of styling, decent V6, good LS3/99 engine, and pent up demand from the mullet crowd allowed the Camaro to take the crown. Just this past month (May), the Mustang outsold the Camaro for the first time since the new Camaro release.

I'll disagree just a tad on the base Vette comment. I think a relatively low option Grand Sport is actually the best overall performance package out there right now. It can do it all performance wise, and do it all day long on the track, for easily less than $50k OTD nowadays. Dry sump LS3, wide body, Z06 brakes/wheels/tires, TR6060, etc. Yum.

On paper, I don't like the grand sport when it comes to what you get versus what you pay on an incremental basis. I don't think the value is there. I think the base car just offers tons of value in comparison to other cars, for what you pay.

With all that said, and as odd as it will sound, if I were to go buy a Corvette today I would probably be a Grand Sport because me wanting all the extra shit would make me forget all about the value thing. I'd be "thinking with my dick" so to speak. lol

[CJ]

grand sport has the widebody? just trying to learn more about the vette's ... sounds like a great bang for the $

Yes, and it's dry sump. The Grand sport is the affordable track toy, that's the role it's always played.

[SS Junk]

OMG BUT BUT BUT THA RIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIING!11111

[quikag]

On paper, I don't like the grand sport when it comes to what you get versus what you pay on an incremental basis. I don't think the value is there. I think the base car just offers tons of value in comparison to other cars, for what you pay.

With all that said, and as odd as it will sound, if I were to go buy a Corvette today I would probably be a Grand Sport because me wanting all the extra shit would make me forget all about the value thing. I'd be "thinking with my dick" so to speak. lol

Real world trans prices the GS isn't that much more than an equivalently optioned base. Of course, it's not cheap or free, but you get a ton of goodies on the GS that aren't available on the base.

That said, before my recent '10 C6, I had an '08 Z51 LS3 Vette and it was an awesome ride for the money. I paid low 40's for it new with the mid level 2LT package and Z51 and I tracked that car for 3 years. I did intake, long tubes, cat-back, and R-comp tires and it ran great.

Anyway, back on-topic...the ZL1 rules.

[46Tbird]

I'd love to have a Z06 or ZR1 when I'm fat old and bald but I gotta make some skrilla before that will happen.

[Doug Hatton]

So you're just waiting to get fat then??!

[46Tbird]

No, old...

[Grape]

both of those things look like a bag of dicks.

[OrangeChevyII]

You quoted yourself quoting me? Stupid fuck, youre so caught up in acting like a douche you havnt kept of with the fact I want the damn Ford.

[Broncojohnny]

so you're just waiting to get fat then??!

goooooooooooooooooooooooooooooal!