Fedor Emelianenko is a wrecking machine.

[CJ]

Fedor is one of the most overrated fighters ever. The heavyweight division has been full of garbage until Brock showed up and allistar gained 90 pounds, aside from Randy fighting outside the weight division. Fedor has beat cans, 'professional' wrestlers with no credentials and other bullshit side shows.

Pride was rumored to be fixed similar to pancreas. Let me know who Fedor defeated that was amazing.

My point exactly. All carefully chosen fights.

[onemeangixxer7502]

My point exactly. All carefully chosen fights.

Thats with any big draw fighter. They pick fights that they know their money maker should win.

[CJ]

Thats with any big draw fighter. They pick fights that they know their money maker should win.

Exactly my point, they pick fights he should win. It was a joke - he was fighting 7ft tall clowns, it was laughable. Some of his fights were reasonable, but none of them were real nail biters.

[Steve]

Exactly my point, they pick fights he should win. It was a joke - he was fighting 7ft tall clowns, it was laughable. Some of his fights were reasonable, but none of them were real nail biters.

Well, thats going a lil far in my opinion. You cant tell me you werent on the edge of your seat when he fought Crocop or when Kevin Randleman picked him up and slammed him on his head. He was given some tough guys to fight, they werent all cans. Its just he never competed against the ufc hw's which is why we will always second guess him.

[ThreeFingerPete]

Exactly my point, they pick fights he should win. It was a joke - he was fighting 7ft tall clowns, it was laughable. Some of his fights were reasonable, but none of them were real nail biters.

LOL. Please man, are you telling me that going the distance with Big Nog twice, taking Cro Cop in his prime to a war that also went the distance, destroyed brett rogers (who was destroying his opponents handily, prior), tim sylvia (lol).

Fedor has a really good game, he's very solid with his hands, dangerous in close range (sambo), almost impossible to submit... I don't see how he's overrated.

Sure there were some iffy matches, but you can thank M1 Global and Japan's love for the ridiculous for most of those.

[CJ]

LOL. Please man, are you telling me that going the distance with Big Nog twice, taking Cro Cop in his prime to a war that also went the distance, destroyed brett rogers (who was destroying his opponents handily, prior), tim sylvia (lol).

Fedor has a really good game, he's very solid with his hands, dangerous in close range (sambo), almost impossible to submit... I don't see how he's overrated.

Sure there were some iffy matches, but you can thank M1 Global and Japan's love for the ridiculous for most of those.

I'm not saying he's a bad fighter, shit I've sang his praises forever. I'm saying he is overrated compared to his record. Practically undefeated? No one can live up to a record like that. Brett Rogers and Nog were good fights. Cro Cop is an excellent fighter but not as well rounded as Fedor. Tim Sylvia better have been a joke But this is my point, you pick out a very miniscule portion of his fights. Compare that to Randy, who the hell didn't he fight? He didn't get that many easy fights. I think Randy has a much more honest record in comparison to Fedor.

Well, thats going a lil far in my opinion. You cant tell me you werent on the edge of your seat when he fought Crocop or when Kevin Randleman picked him up and slammed him on his head. He was given some tough guys to fight, they werent all cans. Its just he never competed against the ufc hw's which is why we will always second guess him.

Excellent point. I am still butt hurt we didn't get the Randy fight. I will forever be disappointed in that.

[DON SVO]

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Excellent point. I am still butt hurt we didn't get the Randy fight. I will forever be disappointed in that.

Randy had a great chance to dethrone the emperor. That's why that fight never happened.

[Steve]

Randy had a great chance to dethrone the emperor. That's why that fight never happened.

Randy was never at any point a threat to Fedor. That is a bad style match up for Randy. The sole reason that fight never happened is because Fedor is managed by his government looking to cash in hoping to get a ownership percentage of the UFC in part of Fedor's contract. Most people think it was because of a "co-promotion" deal, but it never got that far because DW told them to go fuck themselves on owning part of his company.

[CJ]

Randy was never at any point a threat to Fedor. That is a bad style match up for Randy. The sole reason that fight never happened is because Fedor is managed by his government looking to cash in hoping to get a ownership percentage of the UFC in part of Fedor's contract. Most people think it was because of a "co-promotion" deal, but it never got that far because DW told them to go fuck themselves on owning part of his company.

I don't know about that. That's the same story every one of his victories was preceded by. I didn't know they wanted a part of the UFC, that's absurd. But, we will only be able to theorize about the fight, but to say randy would get stomped is pretty counter intuitive given his history. I think it would have been one of the best ever. At least I imagined it would be.

[abecx]

LOL. Please man, are you telling me that going the distance with Big Nog twice, taking Cro Cop in his prime to a war that also went the distance, destroyed brett rogers (who was destroying his opponents handily, prior), tim sylvia (lol).

Fedor has a really good game, he's very solid with his hands, dangerous in close range (sambo), almost impossible to submit... I don't see how he's overrated.

Sure there were some iffy matches, but you can thank M1 Global and Japan's love for the ridiculous for most of those.

Crocop in his prime lost to MARK HUNT, GABE GONZAGA, KEVIN THE LIGHTHEAVY RANDLEMEN, JOSH BARNETT, CHEICK KONGO....

Big nogs record isnt that impressive either.

Brett Rogers was a fucking tire specialist at Sams Warehouse like a year before he fought Fedor..

These are some impressive fighters he's destroying.

[abecx]

and if you want a real laugh, try reviewing the fight records of the people Fedor beat.

Dana White even agrees that he was overrated and he only wanted him for the ppv buys.


This was stated by Rampage in an interview:

Igor Vovchanchyn, I got two weeks notice [for the fight]. Ninja, two weeks notice. It was bad. The tournaments were fixed. They said they drew numbers from a hat. It was all set up for Wanderlei to win. It was really bad. Even in some fights they would stand you up when you were winning, different stuff like that.

[ThreeFingerPete]

I don't know about that. That's the same story every one of his victories was preceded by. I didn't know they wanted a part of the UFC, that's absurd. But, we will only be able to theorize about the fight, but to say randy would get stomped is pretty counter intuitive given his history. I think it would have been one of the best ever. At least I imagined it would be.

Randy made his name out wrestling and dirty boxing people. He's a very very intelligent fighter, but he has had problems with good strikers. What could Randy do that Fedor couldn't do/hasn't done better?

Randy's most impressive wins are probably Liddell, Vitor and entertainingly enough, the way he handled up on Sylvia. Fedor fought EVERYONE that non-ufc pride productions had to offer except for Barnett... He also fought some schmucks.

BTW: Fedor fought Cro-Cop when Cro-Cop was turning n1gg4s lights off left and right. Don't let the UFC colored glasses fool you, there was some talent in Pride.

Josh Barnett has 6 losses, and Cro-Cop was the reason for 3 of them.

[abecx]

Fedor fought Cro-Cop when Cro-Cop was turning n1gg4s lights off left and right.

Cro Cop turned these fighters lights off:

A 5'8" heavy weight.
Heath Herring.
Alberto Del Rio a WWE wrestler
A middleweight with a 13 - 13 record that lost to a WWE wrestler Chuck Colombo
A professional wrestler with a 14 - 23 record.
A light heavyweight kevin randleman ( he also LOST to randleman via knockout ).
Fedors brother who was never great.
5'9" middleweight with a 53 - 34 journeyman record
Middleweight Wanderlei Silva...


the most impressive is his wins of Barnett. Pride was pancrase on a larger and more professional stage.


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[War Machine]

Anyone who thinks Fedor is overrated didnt watch pride when he was walking over the best heavyweights in the world. Fedor beat the best of the best time after time.



Though, I havent watched a UFC fight since the spike tv shit started, and everyone started wearing affliction shirts so my opinion is obviously dated

[CJ]

Randy made his name out wrestling and dirty boxing people. He's a very very intelligent fighter, but he has had problems with good strikers. What could Randy do that Fedor couldn't do/hasn't done better?

Randy's most impressive wins are probably Liddell, Vitor and entertainingly enough, the way he handled up on Sylvia. Fedor fought EVERYONE that non-ufc pride productions had to offer except for Barnett... He also fought some schmucks.

BTW: Fedor fought Cro-Cop when Cro-Cop was turning n1gg4s lights off left and right. Don't let the UFC colored glasses fool you, there was some talent in Pride.

Josh Barnett has 6 losses, and Cro-Cop was the reason for 3 of them.

Who said PRIDE didn't have great fighters? PRIDE is responsible for some of the best fighers in the world, Anderson Silva anyone? I'm not saying cro-cop wasn't a great fighter, I just feel fedor was better rounded. I think Randy's biggest weakness was his chin, towards the latter part of his career it became more evident.