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  • #16
    The Beirut river turning red, well, there's this article: http://www.dailystar.com.lb/News/Loc...#axzz1rx1u43aA

    Damage from red river could be long felt February 18, 2012 02:09 AM By Van Meguerditchian

    The Daily Star :: Lebanon News

    The waterway of Nahr Beirut turned red after a sewage pipe expelled an unidentifiable stream of effluvium into it, Wednesday, Feb. 15, 2012. (The Daily Star/Mohammad Azakir)

    BEIRUT: Two days after the Beirut River mysteriously turned red, experts warned Friday that the waterway is in danger, not only from illegal sewage dumping, but from industrial waste which could have long-term effects on city residents and marine life.

    Experts and security officials are still trying to identify the exact source and the nature of the substance that turned the Beirut River blood red, although preliminary investigations point to a dye being the culprit.

    While the contamination lasted more than than 24 hours, government and local officials were unable to locate its source, leaving the red substance to mix with the river water and then flow into the Mediterranean Sea.

    According to a security source, the investigation into the incident will be challenging and it will be difficult to locate the exact source of the dumping. “The red dye was probably dumped by a leather-producing factory,” the source told The Daily Star.

    Once part of an urban development project, the Beirut River has increasingly become an empty route for waste and sewage dumping following years of neglect by officials.

    During the summer season, one can see only a few inches of dense liquid, filled with sewage, being emptied into the two banks of the river. But when the rainy season arrives every year, some factories take advantage of the running water to get rid of their yearly industrial waste, said one official from the American University of Beirut’s Environmental Health Department.

    “Industries await the winter season to discharge their industrial residues so that they run unnoticed into the Mediterranean,” said Mey Jurdi, professor and chairwoman at AUB’s Environmental Health Department.

    Jurdi argues that based on the density of the liquid that was seen in the river, it is clear that the waste has not undergone any treatment. “Its contamination might be high and it could have disastrous consequences to the environment surrounding it,” said Jurdi.

    She said that every industry should have an onsite treatment of its waste products before disposing of them.

    Although the Beirut Prosecutor assigned the Internal Security Forces to carry out an investigation into the incident which took place earlier this week, the government’s effort to locate the polluter may have taken too long.

    A day after the river turned red, officials were still searching for an official laboratory to examine a sample of the liquid to test whether it contained blood, or an industrial dye.

    However, it appears there are no state-owned laboratories capable of carrying out such tests. The last government laboratory, in the Beirut suburbs and which was poorly equipped, was closed down several years ago. The Environment Ministry Thursday referred the samples to laboratories at AUB for further examination.

    Industry Minister Vrej Sabounjian said the ministry will take strict measures against the party responsible for releasing the substance into the river. “There are guidelines and conditions for all registered industries in the country to abide by ... A failure to respect these conditions will not be tolerated,” Sabounjian said.

    According to Sabounjian, industries have several ways to get rid of annual waste. “It appears that there was either a leakage from some factory or an intentional discharging of waste that they might have considered affordable and cheaper than the other ways of getting rid of waste,” he said. “But that causes significant harm to the environment ... it’s environmentally unacceptable.”

    Raymond Semaan, the mayor of Furn al-Shebbak said it is time to have an environmental prosecution office in the country. “Lebanese don’t care about the environment, they give no value to it,” said Semaan, who earlier this week urged the Beirut Governor to launch a campaign to protect the city’s river and the people living around it.

    Semaan said the canal leading to the sewage pipe from which the colored water poured gets blocked every several months. “We are fortunate that it got blocked at the time when the factory was emptying its waste into the sea ... they usually empty it straight into the sea,” he said, adding that the incident at the Beirut River exposed “the biggest environmental crime.”
    Men have become the tools of their tools.
    -Henry David Thoreau

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    • #17
      Some of the explanations sound like I came up with them....and why come err time water be getting dirty, it be turnin all red n stuff
      .....bro....

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      • #18
        Originally posted by A+ View Post
        Some of the explanations sound like I came up with them....and why come err time water be getting dirty, it be turnin all red n stuff
        Red velvet cake.

        At least that's how I turn toilet water red.



        And, despite the theological tone of the video, there are definite changes we're witnessing to our planetary environment. Probably most alarming is the accelerating drift of our geomagnetic pole. I just don't like that, of what I saw of the video, there was an implied inexplicable nature to what was shown. That's disingenuous.

        It's not like we can't or don't study unusual phenomena. We absolutely do.
        Men have become the tools of their tools.
        -Henry David Thoreau

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        • #19
          It hard to find an unbiased opinion anywhere. Makes me not want to believe what anyone says.
          .....bro....

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          • #20
            Originally posted by BERNIE MOSFET View Post

            It's not like we can't or don't study unusual phenomena. We absolutely do.
            Then why don't scientist believe in ghost!? That shits real son!
            .....bro....

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            • #21
              Originally posted by A+ View Post
              It hard to find an unbiased opinion anywhere. Makes me not want to believe what anyone says.
              Science tries very hard to present things in an unbiased manner, and things don't start to become accepted until published findings can be reproduced.

              That's why I will typically go to peer reviewed journals for the gist of things, but even then that's not a guarantee. You have to research authors, publications, so forth and so on to get a firm idea of what bias might be present. It's a pain in the ass.


              Originally posted by A+ View Post
              Then why don't scientist believe in ghost!? That shits real son!
              lol, I don't have an answer for that.


              How does someone explain this reincarnation anecdote:

              SWARNLATA MISHRA

              Reincarnation in India
              One of the most famous of case studies is that of Swarnlata Mishra. She was born to an intellectual and prosperous family in Pradesh in India 1948. When she was just three years old and travelling with her father past the town of Katni more than 100 miles from her home, she suddenly pointed and asked the driver to turn down a road to "my house", and suggested they could get a better cup of tea there than they could on the road.

              Soon after, she related more details of her life in Katni, all of which were written down by her father. She said her name was Biya Pathak, and that she had two sons. She gave details of the house: it was white with black doors fitted with iron bars; four rooms were stuccoed, but other parts were less finished; the front floor was of stone slabs. She located the house in Zhurkutia, a district of Katni; behind the house was a girl's school, in front was a railway line, and lime furnaces were visible from the house. She added that the family had a motor car (a very rare item in India in the 1950's, and especially before Swarnlata was born). Swarnlata said Biya died of a "pain in her throat", and was treated by Dr. S. C. Bhabrat in Jabalpur. She also remembered an incident at a wedding when she and a friend had difficulty finding a latrine.

              In the spring of 1959, when Swarnlata was 10 years old, news of the case reached Professor Sri H. N. Banerjee, an Indian researcher of paranormal phenomenon and colleague of Stevenson. Banerjee took the notes her father made and traveled to Katni to determine if Swarnlata's memories could be verified. Using nothing more than the description that Swarnlata had given, he found the house, despite the house having been enlarged and improved since 1939 when Biya died. It belonged to the Pathak's (a common name in India), a wealthy, prominent family, with extensive business interests. The lime furnaces were on land adjoining the property; the girls school was 100 yards behind the Pathak's property, but not visible from the front.

              He interviewed the family and verified everything Swarnlata had said. Biya Pathak had died in 1939 leaving behind a grieving husband, two young sons, and many younger brothers. These Pathaks had never heard of the Mishra family, who lived a hundred miles away; the Mishra's had no knowledge of the Pathak family.

              In the summer of 1959, Biya's husband, son, and eldest brother journeyed to the town of Chhatarpur, the town where Swarnlata now lived, to test Swarnlata's memory. They did not reveal their identities or purpose to others in the town, but enlisted nine townsmen to accompany them to the Mishar home, where they arrived unannounced.

              Swarnlata immediately recognized her brother and called him "Babu", Biya's pet name for him. Stevenson gives only the barest facts, but I can imagine the emotions ran high at this point. Imagine how Babu felt to be recognized immediately by his dead sister reborn. Ten-year-old Swarnlata went around the room looking at each man in turn; some she identified as men she knew from her town, some were strangers to her. Then she came to Sri Chintamini Pandey, Biya's husband. Swarnlata lowered her eyes, looked bashful as Hindu wives do in the presence of their husbands and spoke his name. Stevenson says nothing of Sri Pandey's reaction at finding his wife after twenty years.

              Swarnlata also correctly identified her son from her past life, Murli, who was 13 years old when Biya died. But Murli schemed to mislead her, and "for almost twenty-four hours insisted against her objections that he was not Murli, but someone else." Murli had also brought along a friend and tried to mislead Swarnlata once again by insisting he was Naresh, Biya's other son, who was about the same age as this friend. Swarnlata insisted just as strongly that he was a stranger. Finally, Swarnlata reminded Sri Pandey that he had stolen 1200 rupees Biya kept in a box. Sri Pandey admitted to the truth of this private fact that only he and his wife had known.

              A few weeks later, Swarnlata's father took her to Katni to visit the home and town where Biya lived and died. Upon arriving she immediately noticed and remarked about the changes to the house. She asked about the parapet at the back of the house, a veranda, and the neem tree that used to grow in the compound; all had been removed since Biya's death. She identified Biya's room and the room in which she had died. She recognized one of Biya's brothers and correctly identified him as her second brother. She did the same for her third and fourth brother, the wife of the younger brother, the son of the second brother calling him by his pet name Baboo. Later Swarnlata was presented to a room full of strangers and asked whom she recognized. She correctly picked out her husband's cousin, the wife of Biya's brother-in-law, and a midwife whom she identified not by her current name, but by a name she had used when Biya was alive.

              Biya's son Murli, in another test, introduced Swarnlata to a man he called a new friend, Bhola. Swarnlata insisted correctly that this man was actually Biya's second son, Naresh. In another test, Biya's youngest brother tried to trap Swarnlata by saying that Biya had lost her teeth; Swarnlata did not fall for this, and went on to say that Biya had gold fillings in her front teeth a fact that the brothers had forgotten and were forced to confirm by consulting with their wives, who reminded them that what Swarnlata said was true.

              Biyas dialect was distinctly different than that of the Pradesh�s and remarkably similar to the Pathaks. She was familiar with intimate names and family secrets, and remembered even marriage relationships, old servants, and friends. It was as if, her memory was frozen at the time of Biya's death; Swarnlata knew nothing about the Pathak family that had happened since 1939.

              In the following years, Swarnlata visited the Pathak family at regular intervals. Stevenson investigated the case in 1961, witnessing one of these visits. He observed the loving relationship between Swarnlata and the other members of the family. They all accepted her as Biya reborn. Swarnlata behaved appropriately reserved towards Biya's elders, but when alone with Biya's sons, she was relaxed and playful as a mother would be, behavior that would otherwise be totally inappropriate in India for a 10-year-old girl in the company of unrelated men in their mid-thirties.

              The Pathak brothers and Swarnlata observed the Hindu custom of Rakhi, in which brothers and sisters annually renew their devotion to each other by exchanging gifts. In fact the Pathak brothers were distressed and angry one year when Swarnlata missed the ceremony; they felt that because she had lived with them for 40 years and with the Mishras for only 10 years that they had a greater claim on her. As evidence of how strongly the Pathaks believed that Swarnlata was their Biya, they admitted that they had changed their views of reincarnation upon meeting Swarnlata and accepting her as Biya reborn (the Pathaks, because of their status and wealth, emulated Western ideas and had not believed in reincarnation before this happened). Swarnlata's father, Sri Mishra, also accepted the truth of Swarnlata's past identity: years later, when it came time for Swarnlata to marry he consulted with the Pathaks about the choice of a husband for her.

              Stevenson visited her in later years and corresponded with her for ten years after this case was investigated. He reports that she grew up normally, received an advanced degree in botany, and got married. She said that sometimes, when she reminisced about her happy life in Katni, her eyes brimmed with tears and, for a moment, she wished she could return to the wealth and life of Biya. But her loyalty to the Mishra family was undivided and, except for the regular visits to Katni, she went about the business of growing into a beautiful young woman, accepting fully her station in this life.



              I have to reject it on principal, but damn I like the idea of respawning!
              Men have become the tools of their tools.
              -Henry David Thoreau

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              • #22
                Somethings happening here, and what it is ain't exactly clear.
                Originally posted by Nash B.
                Damn, man. Sorry to hear that. If it'll cheer you up, Geor swallows. And even if it doesn't cheer you up, it cheers him up.

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                • #23
                  Tinfoil ready
                  Originally posted by Buzzo
                  Some dudes jump out of airplanes, I fuck hookers without condoms.

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                  • #24
                    I think the most peculiar deal was the black news anchor in Montana. We are fucked!

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by GeorgeG. View Post
                      I'm not the tinfoil-hat type guy but this definitely makes you wonder.
                      No, it doesn't.
                      Originally posted by davbrucas
                      I want to like Slow99 since people I know say he's a good guy, but just about everything he posts is condescending and passive aggressive.

                      Most people I talk to have nothing but good things to say about you, but you sure come across as a condescending prick. Do you have an inferiority complex you've attempted to overcome through overachievement? Or were you fondled as a child?

                      You and slow99 should date. You both have passive aggressiveness down pat.

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                      • #26
                        Look this up Nibiru

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                        • #27
                          This is full on retard.
                          Full time ninja editor.

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                          • #28


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                            • #29
                              Why do you think he did this http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sourc...rVRNQ_r-NupHJg

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                              • #30
                                I think I'll go to church tomorrow.

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