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  • #31
    Originally posted by Broncojohnny View Post
    Hey moron, the Texas legislature outlawed them years ago.

    Now it is time for you to try to change the scope of the argument, go ahead fool, amuse me with your bullshit.
    Did you live here more when they were outlawed? If so, what part did you play in having them outlawed? What are your plans to address this oppression in other states, or are you ok with the gestapo keeping other Americans down, so long as it doesnt affect you?

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    • #32
      Originally posted by clevelandkid View Post
      Did you live here more when they were outlawed? If so, what part did you play in having them outlawed? What are your plans to address this oppression in other states, or are you ok with the gestapo keeping other Americans down, so long as it doesnt affect you?
      Fail
      Originally posted by racrguy
      What's your beef with NPR, because their listeners are typically more informed than others?
      Originally posted by racrguy
      Voting is a constitutional right, overthrowing the government isn't.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by talisman View Post
        You're too fucking dense for me to explain it to you. You're the type of person that is perfectly fine giving up a little freedom here and a little freedom there, all in the name of some vague non existent personal security. Fuck you and everything you stand for.
        Eric, you don't always have to use a sledgehammer to drive a point home.



        It's not like they "lost" in this situation. You can get the info you need without him answering the question. If you can get someone to speak, you can get a smell of breath. You can get the same breath with a standard answer, or his "name and badge number" routine. If he doesn't smell drunk, and doesn't look drunk (eyes, appearance, etc), then he goes about his way. Simple as that.

        It's the totality of the circumstances, not the answer to the question.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by clevelandkid View Post
          I have lost people to DUI wrecks a bunch of times, and I can not stand the random DUI trap - as I feel they are very ineffective, and that the police have no buisiness stopping random people for no reason....

          BUT

          If you have the misfortune of going through one, you are not accomplishing ANYTHING by being a douche to the cop. He could have said no and been out of there a minute earlier. Refusing to answer the cops questions is not going to stop random checkpoints from being used, and I'd be willing to bet that this guy has not made any effort to address his displeasure with the procedure through the proper channels to try and get this policy changed.

          Sure, this guy exercised his rights not to answer, but what did it accomplish? If he would have smelled of booze or slurred on any one of his questions, he would have been out of the car with a quickness. If the cops really wanted to be dicks, they would have just said they smelled booze for not complying with them, and later say he failed or refused a field sobriety test.

          Hooray for sticking it to "the man" er.... being a douche and changing nothing.
          Pretty good post for a kid...

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          • #35
            Originally posted by 03trubluGT View Post
            Eric, you don't always have to use a sledgehammer to drive a point home.



            It's not like they "lost" in this situation. You can get the info you need without him answering the question. If you can get someone to speak, you can get a smell of breath. You can get the same breath with a standard answer, or his "name and badge number" routine. If he doesn't smell drunk, and doesn't look drunk (eyes, appearance, etc), then he goes about his way. Simple as that.

            It's the totality of the circumstances, not the answer to the question.
            Good point




            Just curious, 5th Amendment in application here?
            "Self-government won't work without self-discipline." - Paul Harvey

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            • #36
              Originally posted by 03trubluGT View Post
              Eric, you don't always have to use a sledgehammer to drive a point home.



              It's not like they "lost" in this situation. You can get the info you need without him answering the question. If you can get someone to speak, you can get a smell of breath. You can get the same breath with a standard answer, or his "name and badge number" routine. If he doesn't smell drunk, and doesn't look drunk (eyes, appearance, etc), then he goes about his way. Simple as that.

              It's the totality of the circumstances, not the answer to the question.


              I don't give a shit. I'm tired of people pretending like shit like this is okay, all in the name of some supposed unspecified benefit. There is no probable cause, it is completely against the very basic founding principles of this country we live in. Pretending like it isn't a big deal is fucking stupid, and so is anyone that thinks otherwise. How about some random home checks while we're at at it? Get the fuck outta here. It pisses me off, and should piss anyone with half a brain off.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by talisman View Post
                I don't give a shit. I'm tired of people pretending like shit like this is okay, all in the name of some supposed unspecified benefit. There is no probable cause, it is completely against the very basic founding principles of this country we live in. Pretending like it isn't a big deal is fucking stupid, and so is anyone that thinks otherwise. How about some random home checks while we're at at it? Get the fuck outta here. It pisses me off, and should piss anyone with half a brain off.
                I think you are overestimating the people who post in these forums.
                Originally posted by racrguy
                What's your beef with NPR, because their listeners are typically more informed than others?
                Originally posted by racrguy
                Voting is a constitutional right, overthrowing the government isn't.

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                • #38
                  I'm drinking while i read this.
                  And i'm not at home.
                  sigpic

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Broncojohnny View Post
                    I think you are overestimating the people who post in these forums.


                    A three pointer to you, good sir.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by talisman View Post
                      You're what is wrong with this country.
                      id like to see you re answer that question on a tuesday nite coming home from the bar.

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Damnittsteve View Post
                        id like to see you re answer that question on a tuesday nite coming home from the bar.


                        I'd like to see you start your car without blowing into a breathalyzer first.

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by talisman View Post
                          i'd like to see you start your car without blowing into a breathalyzer first.
                          goooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooal
                          Originally posted by racrguy
                          What's your beef with NPR, because their listeners are typically more informed than others?
                          Originally posted by racrguy
                          Voting is a constitutional right, overthrowing the government isn't.

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by talisman View Post
                            I don't give a shit. I'm tired of people pretending like shit like this is okay, all in the name of some supposed unspecified benefit. There is no probable cause, it is completely against the very basic founding principles of this country we live in. Pretending like it isn't a big deal is fucking stupid, and so is anyone that thinks otherwise. How about some random home checks while we're at at it? Get the fuck outta here. It pisses me off, and should piss anyone with half a brain off.
                            Actions speak louder than words.

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by talisman View Post
                              I'd like to see you start your car without blowing into a breathalyzer first.
                              joke all you want dude, the only difference between you and me is luck and a failed marriage.

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by talisman View Post
                                I don't give a shit. I'm tired of people pretending like shit like this is okay, all in the name of some supposed unspecified benefit. There is no probable cause, it is completely against the very basic founding principles of this country we live in. Pretending like it isn't a big deal is fucking stupid, and so is anyone that thinks otherwise. How about some random home checks while we're at at it? Get the fuck outta here. It pisses me off, and should piss anyone with half a brain off.
                                Originally posted by talisman View Post
                                I'd like to see you start your car without blowing into a breathalyzer first.
                                Originally posted by Broncojohnny View Post
                                goooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooal
                                bwahaha !!@!@!@!

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