Cops in here - video of kid getting pulled over

[Big A]

The kid's registration wasn't out, so he's under no further obligation to provide any more information to the officer. Check the link I posted.

Steveo and trublu have covered it, when operating a mototrized vehicle, you have to show proof that you are licensed and insured to do so. In this case only the passenger could decline.

[YALE]

Steveo and trublu have covered it, when operating a mototrized vehicle, you have to show proof that you are licensed and insured to do so. In this case only the passenger could decline.

Yeah, I'm wrong. FTP!¡!¡!¡!1111

[Big A]

Speaking of having no reason for pulling someone over. On the way back from PA to TX while driving through VA a statey pulled me over for having a ball in the bumper of my truck. That's the only reason. How do I know this? Because I asked him. Gave him my information and had to ask him more than once why I was pulled over. He then started to sniff around and wrote me a ticket for tint. Keep in mind it was around 10 at night. I was guilty of driving with TX plates.

A lot of Mexican dope comes to the northeast via the Texas border, in stolen vehicles with Texas plates.

[Up0n0ne]

Are all laws reasonable and just? Are all laws equally applied? Do all methods of redress regarding these laws provide equal protection in function, and not simply in theory?




More to your point:
http://supreme.justia.com/us/440/648/case.html

Nice!

This should end the argument as far as the officer having no PC:

Sec. 521.025. LICENSE TO BE CARRIED AND EXHIBITED ON DEMAND; CRIMINAL PENALTY. (a) A person required to hold a license under Section 521.021 shall 1) have in the person's possession while operating a motor vehicle the class of driver's license appropriate for the type of vehicle operated; and(2) display the license on the demand of a magistrate, court officer, or peace officer.(b) A peace officer may stop and detain a person operating a motor vehicle to determine if the person has a driver's license as required by this section.(c) A person who violates this section commits an offense. An offense under this subsection is a misdemeanor punishable by a fine not to exceed $200

The bolded text means an officer can make a stop just to see if the person holds a license.

When was this added? Just curious, as the gov't tends to change things under radar.
So according to the link above, some states still are holding on a little bit tighter to the Constitution than others?

[Big A]

When was this added? Just curious, as the gov't tends to change things under radar.
So according to the link above, some states still are holding on a little bit tighter to the Constitution than others?

I don't think it's at all new. I recall learning to always have my wallet on me when driving, when I first got my license, and that was 20 years ago.

[YALE]

Nice!



When was this added? Just curious, as the gov't tends to change things under radar.
So according to the link above, some states still are holding on a little bit tighter to the Constitution than others?

There was a SCOTUS case in about 2003 or so that stated that a police officer asking for ID for no other reason than to verify ID was a reasonable exception under the 4th amendment. I'll do some googling tonight after work.

[03trubluGT]

There was a SCOTUS case in about 2003 or so that stated that a police officer asking for ID for no other reason than to verify ID was a reasonable exception under the 4th amendment. I'll do some googling tonight after work.

When you are operating a vehicle on a public roadway it makes a difference.
Vehicle exceptions have been this way for decades due to the inherent high mobility of a vehicle and the ability to transport evidence.

Now if you were walking down a sidewalk, I just can't stop you and ask for ID.

[03trubluGT]

Are all laws reasonable and just? Are all laws equally applied? Do all methods of redress regarding these laws provide equal protection in function, and not simply in theory?




More to your point:
http://supreme.justia.com/us/440/648/case.html

I just read your link, and different courts have different opinions.

[347Mike]

Negative. The law states immediately pull to the right. Most officers prefer that you pull out of traffic but not if you have to travel a long distance to do so. When an individual travels for a while it starts throwing red flags up, like they are trying to hide things in the vehicle. Law is written immediately but it is up to officer discretion whether to write the citation.

I travel until I feel safe to pull over. I understand the latter part of what you are saying with hiding things but it is a little silly when you think about it. It seems foolish as well to pull over immediately on the highway and have traffic in that lane slow down to 30-40 mph just because someone could be hiding something. Adding one silly rule though seems to open the book for 2-3 more silly rules...

[Taylor]

That officer could barely speak. Drilicensepaywork!

[Forever_frost]

So, what happened next? It's always interesting to see a police officer completely freeze when his unlawful orders are not immediately followed

[03trubluGT]

So, what happened next? It's always interesting to see a police officer completely freeze when his unlawful orders are not immediately followed

Seriously?






They got beaten and Tased!

[Up0n0ne]

That officer could barely speak. Drilicensepaywork!

That was funny!

Seriously?

They got beaten and Tased!

With the camera off of course.
I used to like to watch the show Cops and others. I can't stand it anymore, you can see the arrogance and the above the law attittude in 85% them.
Most seem to think they are above the law and the constitution.
It's definitely "Guilty till proven innocent" nowadays.

It used to be "For the people by the people". Govt. is supposed to work for the people, that went for law enforcement, being it local govt.
LOL at "Protect and Serve"
Not saying all are bad, but seems the majority tilt that way.
I see cops all the time do rolling stops, speed through town, turn on the e-lights just to go through a signal and then just cruise.
Woohoo go po po go.

[TheTRiM]

I always keep a shovel and crime scene cleaning kit in my car, along with my throw down gun, and several varieties of naroctics (weed, coke, heroin, crack) for planting.

so nice to see you have finally told the truth, I guess theres a first time for everything.

[tangstang]

That was funny!


It's definitely "Guilty till proven innocent" nowadays.

It used to be "For the people by the people". Govt. is supposed to work for the people, that went for law enforcement, being it local govt.
LOL at "Protect and Serve"
Not saying all are bad, but seems the majority tilt that way.
I see cops all the time do rolling stops, speed through town, turn on the e-lights just to go through a signal and then just cruise.
Woohoo go po po go.

Actually nowadays it seems more like "to generate revenue for the city".