Cops in here - video of kid getting pulled over

[LANTIRN]

Break.com video of a kid getting pulled over for registration but refusing to give ID; I'll let you watch the rest and draw your own conclusions. Sorry, I don't know how to imbed break.com videos (not sure if it is the same as youtube).

I could not tell what the cop says at the end right before the kid says "that's bullshit". If anyone can make it out let us know.

http://www.break.com/index/teenage-k...as-law-2196562

I'd like to hear from the officers what they would have done in a similar situation.

Non-cops; if you had done nothing wrong AND the officer admitted it and still wanted ID, would you give it?

And last but not least, was the kid legally right or not?

[Unicorn Jeff]

If I get pulled over I always have insurance and license waiting for him/her then they get to the window. I really don't understand why people have to test the waters and see what happens. 8/10 times if you get pulled over it's because you did something wrong.

[347Mike]

Remain in your vehicle?

[Txstang1]

I didnt watch the video but I beleive you can go to jail anywhere anytime for failure to id

[Pooter]

Get pulled over, show your ID, its that whole thing that proves you actually have a license, kinda how it works.


If you havent done anything illegal or have anything not legal on your car, then you shouldnt have anything to worry about.
Wheres the mess with the bull, get the horns picture?

[Big A]

I didnt watch the video but I beleive you can go to jail anywhere anytime for failure to id

Yep, I don't recall the class of the offense, or if it's immediate jail time, but we are required by law to provide ID.

[stevo]

Yep, I don't recall the class of the offense, or if it's immediate jail time, but we are required by law to provide ID.

I believe it isn't an arrestable offense, but they can detain you until positive identification is achieved. And by detain, I mean that they can take you to the jail, meaning your car gets impounded, and that means it gets searched, etc.

Stevo

[TENGRAM]

If I get pulled over I always have insurance and license waiting for him/her then they get to the window. I really don't understand why people have to test the waters and see what happens. 8/10 times if you get pulled over it's because you did something wrong.

I hardly even move when I get pulled over until they get to the window. Wouldn't want them to think I'm hiding something or reaching for a weapon. I just pull the sunglasses off and wait with my hands in plain sight... yes sir, no sir, etc etc after that. I've been pretty successful with that approach.

[roliath]

i'd give him my id

[Up0n0ne]

Welcome to the Police State of America.
He had every right to question the cop, he did nothing wrong and the cop admitted he (cop) made a mistake.
I applaud the kid for standing up for his rights, more people need to do the same.

Saw a video of 2 guys who walked acrossed America with a couple of signs. They were stopped over and over in every state and were asked to show id. They refused and had every right to, every cop except one pulled the same crap as this cop. Never did they get arrested or had to show id.

"Why are you nervous"

Heck my blood started pumping too, people get nervous, it's part of being human.

Last statement by the cop was, "Remain in your vehicle".


The whole search your vehicle, unconstitutional.
Same as check points on our roadways, unconstitutional.
Same as TSA feeling you up at the airport and football games, unconstitutional.

4th Ammendment:
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

[Blackpony]

that was fucking epic!!!

[Blackpony]

Welcome to the Police State of America.
He had every right to question the cop, he did nothing wrong and the cop admitted he (cop) made a mistake.
I applaud the kid for standing up for his rights, more people need to do the same.

Saw a video of 2 guys who walked acrossed America with a couple of signs. They were stopped over and over in every state and were asked to show id. They refused and had every right to, every cop except one pulled the same crap as this cop. Never did they get arrested or had to show id.


Heck my blood started pumping too, people get nervous, it's part of being human.

Last statement by the cop was, "Remain in your vehicle".


The whole search your vehicle, unconstitutional.
Same as check points on our roadways, unconstitutional.
Same as TSA feeling you up at the airport and football games, unconstitutional.

4th Ammendment:
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

^^^ This...

[Big A]

I believe it isn't an arrestable offense, but they can detain you until positive identification is achieved. And by detain, I mean that they can take you to the jail, meaning your car gets impounded, and that means it gets searched, etc.

Stevo

Yeah, I was just doing some digging, and it isn't against the law to refuse ID in Texas, unless you are under arrest. Though giving false ID is a punishable offense.

[LANTIRN]

Personally, I can kind of see the kid's point. Every time I have been pulled over the officer has immediately told me why he pulled me over, then asked for ID, insurance, etc. He was polite, I was polite, and most of the time it was for minor speeding and I got a warning. I guess I am lucky that I live in an area where officers know how to do their job while respecting rights so I have never had a problem; hell I can't recall any friends or family running into a "rights abusing" police officer. Maybe we are lucky where I live, but I know it does happen. I think I would probably have the same reaction as the kid in similar circumstances; if you refuse to tell me why you pulled me over then we can do this in court. The issue of respect goes both ways; I realize officers have to naturally be on the defensive due to their job, but there is absolutely no reason they can't tell you why you were pulled over.

[Blakeski]

I know both of these guys, at one point both of them worked for me, both smartass kids, but they always listened.