Tire porn

[quikag]

I ordered these 8 tires yesterday early afternoon at Tirerack.com and they were delivered before noon today. I used their standard UPS ground shipping too. That is impressive service.

Based on the relative lack of tread and tread depth, me thinks these Sport Cups won't last too long. The factory PS2 Michelins lasted about 4200 hard street miles with 4 track days at MSR. If the Sport Cups only last half as long, then they could cost as much as a $1/mile to use them. Gulp.

New front tires (2):


New rear tires (2):


Daily driver tires (4):

[dville_gt]

my buddy rico could have hooked you up with tires with lots more tread for cheaper!

[aggie97]

for the cost of 3 sets of those tires, you could have bought my race car....a set of Nittos costs about 700 a set..... Just sayin'!

[quikag]

for the cost of 3 sets of those tires, you could have bought my race car....a set of Nittos costs about 700 a set..... Just sayin'!

Does your car come with a warranty? I.e. if it breaks you will pay parts/labor to fix it?

[46Tbird]

You bought those knowing they will cost about a dollar/mile? That's crazy. I completely understand race car parts abuse, but that is outrageous.

[quikag]

You bought those knowing they will cost about a dollar/mile? That's crazy. I completely understand race car parts abuse, but that is outrageous.

I sure as heck hope they don't, but if they only last around 2,100 miles, then it will be a buck a mile. I hope they last longer than that, but we will see.

[aggie97]

Does your car come with a warranty? I.e. if it breaks you will pay parts/labor to fix it?

It DOES actually. It covers the distance from my garage to your trailer. Beyond that, it's like your warranty at 36,001 miles. Your problem!

BTW...onstar in your car is likely tracking you while you are at the track...if it brakes, I seriously doubt GM will listen to your crying. I'd start researching how to disable the GPS or something if you plan to keep tracking the car.

[Mach1]

What kind of insurance do you have that will cover your car if you wad it up at MSR?

[quikag]

It DOES actually. It covers the distance from my garage to your trailer. Beyond that, it's like your warranty at 36,001 miles. Your problem!

BTW...onstar in your car is likely tracking you while you are at the track...if it brakes, I seriously doubt GM will listen to your crying. I'd start researching how to disable the GPS or something if you plan to keep tracking the car.

Fair enough. On the Onstar thing, I've NEVER heard that, i.e. never heard of a warranty repair denied due to Onstar tracking aggressive driving on the track. That would be a first.

My insurance doesn't cover HPDE, so if I wreck it, I'm on my own.

[AdRock]

I did a quick search and found this article from 2009. I don't know if things have changed with Onstar since then.

OnStar tracking

Motorists suspicious of tracking devices sometimes take a sideways view of systems such as OnStar, GM's real-time wireless communications hub that regulates vehicle security and diagnostics.

OnStar helps GM track a stolen vehicle or respond to an emergency like a tire blowout or air-bag deployment by way of an in-car monitoring system that records GPS data, odometer readings and diagnostics such as oil and tire pressure, and sends the information back to OnStar's control center. But can it track one of the company's 5.6 million subscriber's movements or route at any given time?


Gallery: The Best In-Car TechnologyJim Kobus, a communications manager at OnStar, says that the system cannot track any vehicle's location until a customer makes contact by his or her own volition (as the GPS feature required for location triangulation is not continually deployed) or the system detects a blowout or crash.

"We never know where any of our subscribers are until you initiate an interface with us by pressing either the blue or red button," Kobus said. "The only area where that would change is in the event you report the vehicle stolen. We make sure there's a valid police report and then we begin the process to track the vehicle.

"But generally [in that scenario] there's [evidence of] criminal intent and a court order or subpoena, and we follow the court order or subpoena."

At the request of law enforcement, OnStar can remotely slow down a vehicle or halt its operation.

Kobus says that OnStar is not connected to a car's "black box" -- its event data recorder -- adding that an OnStar operator would not contact a driver in the event that, say, their tires were dangerously low.

"We would not know that your vehicle has a diagnostic trouble code; there is no trigger mechanism," Kobus said. "Maybe there are people out there who want that notification. Some subscribers get a vehicle-diagnostics report. We go through all the vehicle diagnostic checks and send it to you once a month."

Kubus also says that while OnStar may record conversations between a driver and OnStar operator held over the car's communications system, he can "categorically" rule out any recording of a private conversation by individuals when they haven't engaged the OnStar system. Strict rules also govern OnStar's use or dissemination of any driver information, but the company will turn over driver information to authorities under court order or subpoena.

[aggie97]

Fair enough. On the Onstar thing, I've NEVER heard that, i.e. never heard of a warranty repair denied due to Onstar tracking aggressive driving on the track. That would be a first.

My insurance doesn't cover HPDE, so if I wreck it, I'm on my own.

Onstar and the onboard data logger will burn you if you blow up the motor while on track....it records what you are doing something like 120 seconds prior to last "event" in the computer. Been on cars now for 10 years. Nissan GTR owners have been getting burned by it too. Just be careful.

[Grape]

better off starting with full treads and cutting your own camber into the tire.............