LEO's What were they thinking?

[Trip McNeely]

I see both sides of the story. 1.) Its usually people that videotape that just do it to get a rise and prove they "have the right." Then theres 2.) The overwhelming cop that goes overboard. I can see if someone see's a cop acting illegally and starts videotaping, but just doing it to egg on the cop to draw a reaction is fucking stupid and they should not be doing it. Especially if its a dicey situation for the LEO.

[Sean88gt]

If a cop gives you an order and you dont' obey then you run the risk of being arrested. He wanted her on her porch for his safety. Notice how she was all tough until she got handcuffed and started to cry. I am tired of seeing all these types of videos where people try to show off their rights. Your in the USA. You have the rights. Go try that in a foreign country and they don't warn, they will just start beating you or worse yet shoot you because they can.

Clearly he was violating her rights as she was on her own property. A warning does not constitute upholding an individuals rights. Not arresting them on some bullshit charge tends to follow their rights a little more.

Authority, when it is out of place, needs to be questioned.

[Taylor]

Mario Masic is the cop...here is his website.

http://www.harvestmoonmalamutes.com

Cool fuckin' dogs.

[Baba Ganoush]

....just doing it to egg on the cop to draw a reaction is fucking stupid and they should not be doing it.

That may be true, but the LEO's job is not to arrest stupid people, or else he'd be very busy.

LEO's are trained public servants. They should have an exponentially greater since of descression and proffessionalism than the common joe. If one lady with a video camera can get under your skin, you should not possess the power of taking one's freedom.

[Grimpala]

If a cop gives you an order and you dont' obey then you run the risk of being arrested. He wanted her on her porch for his safety. Notice how she was all tough until she got handcuffed and started to cry. I am tired of seeing all these types of videos where people try to show off their rights. Your in the USA. You have the rights. Go try that in a foreign country and they don't warn, they will just start beating you or worse yet shoot you because they can.

Good thing this is the US of Fucking A then instead of some shithole foreign country.

It doesn't matter what the cop wanted, he was completely out of his authority to tell her to do anything on her own property seeing as how she had broken no laws.

I could see the 1st and 4th ammendments being violated here along with a number of other laws.

[Trip McNeely]

That may be true, but the LEO's job is not to arrest stupid people, or else he'd be very busy.

LEO's are trained public servants. They should have an exponentially greater since of descression and proffessionalism than the common joe. If one lady with a video camera can get under your skin, you should not possess the power of taking one's freedom.

I see what you are saying, but if you do that in ANY place of busines they have the right to tell you to leave, if you dont then you may be charged with trespassing and....Arrested. Im just playing devils advocate. I see both sides. There are retards out there with cameras who just do that to do it. Would you want someone pestering you while doing your job, and yours isnt dangerous granted you were on traffic stop and detaining a few people.

Like I said, if the cop starts doing something illegal and a camera is whipped out to document said legal activity, then it should be allowed and if its tried to be covered up, then even more so they should be punished.

Freedom is freedom, but it can be abused like anything.

[Grimpala]

I see what you are saying, but if you do that in ANY place of busines they have the right to tell you to leave, if you dont then you may be charged with trespassing and....Arrested. Im just playing devils advocate. I see both sides. There are retards out there with cameras who just do that to do it. Would you want someone pestering you while doing your job, and yours isnt dangerous granted you were on traffic stop and detaining a few people.

Like I said, if the cop starts doing something illegal and a camera is whipped out to document said legal activity, then it should be allowed and if its tried to be covered up, then even more so they should be punished.

Freedom is freedom, but it can be abused like anything.

This wasn't a place of business, it was her front yard.

[Trip McNeely]

This wasn't a place of business, it was her front yard.

I wasn't talking about this particular situation. Obviously the cop was in the wrong on this. I was making a general statement that sometimes these videographers go out of there way and element to make a point that really isnt there. That isnt the case here.

[Baba Ganoush]

If a cop gives you an order and you dont' obey then you run the risk of being arrested. He wanted her on her porch for his safety. Notice how she was all tough until she got handcuffed and started to cry. I am tired of seeing all these types of videos where people try to show off their rights. Your in the USA. You have the rights. Go try that in a foreign country and they don't warn, they will just start beating you or worse yet shoot you because they can.

Who tha fuck cares about foreign countries? "show off their rights"? WTF? Are you saying we're lucky we have the rights we do, and the cops should take some of those rights away?

In THIS country we have a constitution, and cops are servants to the PEOPLE.

[stevo]

He wanted her on her porch for his safety.

Actually. he told her to go inside her house, he never said anything about wanting her to stand on the porch. I imagine if she was filming from the window, he would have been beating on her door.

He also cops a fucking attitude right off by saying "you seem to be very, uhhh, anti-police so I don't feel safe with you standing behind me". How is she being 'very anti-police', by standing in her yard holding a camera?

In instances like this, just firing the prick isn't enough, if the woman has to go to jail for factious charges, the cop needs to go to jail for a minimum of the same amount of time, then be forced to pay the same amounts for bail/time work time lost, etc. If these guys were held responsible for their actions, this type of shit wouldn't happen. Instead, he'll get a paid vacation until his cronies decide what to do, then reprimanded, or fired at worse.

Same ol' shit.

Stevo

[Machx2]

Actually. he told her to go inside her house, he never said anything about wanting her to stand on the porch. I imagine if she was filming from the window, he would have been beating on her door.

He also cops a fucking attitude right off by saying "you seem to be very, uhhh, anti-police so I don't feel safe with you standing behind me". How is she being 'very anti-police', by standing in her yard holding a camera?

In instances like this, just firing the prick isn't enough, if the woman has to go to jail for factious charges, the cop needs to go to jail for a minimum of the same amount of time, then be forced to pay the same amounts for bail/time work time lost, etc. If these guys were held responsible for their actions, this type of shit wouldn't happen. Instead, he'll get a paid vacation until his cronies decide what to do, then reprimanded, or fired at worse.

Same ol' shit.

Stevo

I believe firing is enough. He won't work in another Police field again if he does. So that ruins someones whole life. If he has a criminal justice degree ect. then you are f'ed. He didn't arrest her on something she didn't do. He just went about the whole situation in the wrong way. I would have ignored her and just taken my time on the stop. She would have gotten bored and went inside. He is an idiot and the girl was a pest.

[Machx2]

Actually. he told her to go inside her house, he never said anything about wanting her to stand on the porch. I imagine if she was filming from the window, he would have been beating on her door.

He also cops a fucking attitude right off by saying "you seem to be very, uhhh, anti-police so I don't feel safe with you standing behind me". How is she being 'very anti-police', by standing in her yard holding a camera?

In instances like this, just firing the prick isn't enough, if the woman has to go to jail for factious charges, the cop needs to go to jail for a minimum of the same amount of time, then be forced to pay the same amounts for bail/time work time lost, etc. If these guys were held responsible for their actions, this type of shit wouldn't happen. Instead, he'll get a paid vacation until his cronies decide what to do, then reprimanded, or fired at worse.

Same ol' shit.

Stevo

He also said that what she said to them before she started recording is what made him fear his safety or made him think the anti police thing. So that could have been anything. However he still went about it the wrong way. Was probably her bf getting arrested and she was upset.

[Grimpala]

I wasn't talking about this particular situation. Obviously the cop was in the wrong on this. I was making a general statement that sometimes these videographers go out of there way and element to make a point that really isnt there. That isnt the case here.

True, the asshats that try to ellicit a response and then get what they asked for and whine about it need to knock it off.

[Grimpala]

I believe firing is enough. He won't work in another Police field again if he does. So that ruins someones whole life. If he has a criminal justice degree ect. then you are f'ed. He didn't arrest her on something she didn't do. He just went about the whole situation in the wrong way. I would have ignored her and just taken my time on the stop. She would have gotten bored and went inside. He is an idiot and the girl was a pest.

I didn't finish the video, but what was the charge that he arrested her for?

[Broncojohnny]

If someone has the right to do something in their front yard then they also have the right to do something in their front yard with the police doing a traffic stop in their street as long as they maintain a reasonable distance.

I really don't see what is so hard to understand about that.