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**bcoop** · 01-05-2011, 03:41 PM

lmao @ the taggers. Stick to what you know... Attorney has been hired, tickets have been paid. Keep your nose up your fat wife's ass and out of mine. Kthxbi.

**lowthreeohz** · 01-05-2011, 03:42 PM

Brent, see if the dude will pull the head for you and prove that a piston didn't disappear or anything. I agree with Dave, 500 bucks isn't going to be a bad deal.

**davbrucas** · 01-05-2011, 03:43 PM

Originally posted by bcoop View Post

Those seem slightly higher than what I'm running in to around here, and out east.

I have heard the KTMs are ridiculously easy to work on, but parts availability concerns me, though I know literally nothing of them. I think that's why it concerns me.

I've always had Yami's, and have been out of the scene since about 2002.

KTM is far and away better than the other 65s...suspension, motor, etc. Parts are not much more expensive. Colby has a KTM65 and I do the work on it...I get the parts from ebay or cheapktmpartsonline.com.

**bcoop** · 01-05-2011, 03:43 PM

Originally posted by davbrucas View Post

Even if you have to replate the cylinder, if you can get the bike for $500, it's a steal. But in all the years that I rode smokers, I never had to replate or replace a cylinder after seizing a ring...but you never know until you get inside. These smaller pistons rarely do cylinder wall damage. I would get the bike if you can and order a top end kit and be done with it.

I found a fucking STEAL on a 04 pw50. Needed a new top end, for $300. After talking to some friends, and my brother and his three kids (they all ride), I decided to just spend a little extra coin and go with a 65 over a 50. Kid has only ridden once, and it was this past week on his cousin's 50s. They are about to step up, and to be honest, he'd be bored with it after a month. He is pretty quick to pick up on stuff, and by the last day he was riding, he was running around like he had been doing it all his life.

**lowthreeohz** · 01-05-2011, 03:44 PM

Originally posted by davbrucas View Post

Nothing wrong with ProX for what Brent wants to do with the bike...

Nothing wrong with driving a kia to work.....

**lowthreeohz** · 01-05-2011, 03:44 PM

50's without the clutch kit are fucking junk. I don't understand why people like them so much, barely enough power to wheelie in 1st gear and they can hardly get out of their own way in the other 2.

**davbrucas** · 01-05-2011, 03:45 PM

Originally posted by lo3oz View Post

Nothing wrong with driving a kia to work.....

A little bit different there...

**davbrucas** · 01-05-2011, 03:45 PM

Yup...you can get the Rekluse auto clutch if your kid has trouble learning how to use the clutch.

**lowthreeohz** · 01-05-2011, 03:46 PM

Originally posted by davbrucas View Post

A little bit different there...

How? It's the less expensive, cheaper version. Just replace car with piston and it's the same thing.

**davbrucas** · 01-05-2011, 03:47 PM

Originally posted by lo3oz View Post

50's without the clutch kit are fucking junk. I don't understand why people like them so much, barely enough power to wheelie in 1st gear and they can hardly get out of their own way in the other 2.

You havent seen the KTM50 Pro Senior then...when Colby was on 50s, he rode this. Hauled ass!

As far as the PW50...my 3yr old rides one. Good for young kids to learn on.

**davbrucas** · 01-05-2011, 03:48 PM

Originally posted by lo3oz View Post

How? It's the less expensive, cheaper version. Just replace car with piston and it's the same thing.

But nobody knows you have a ProX piston in your bike...drive the Kia and everyone knows.

Since when are you a parts snob?

**lowthreeohz** · 01-05-2011, 03:50 PM

Originally posted by davbrucas View Post

But nobody knows you have a ProX piston in your bike...drive the Kia and everyone knows.

Since when are you a parts snob?

I'm just being a parts snob today.. but i won't run cheap pistons in my engines!

From some reading, wiseco pistons are forged, and the pro-x are cast. A lot of the PWC guys (where i see most of the opinions) will run either wiseco sudco or pro-x, and stay away from WSM.

**lowthreeohz** · 01-05-2011, 03:50 PM

Originally posted by davbrucas View Post

You havent seen the KTM50 Pro Senior then...when Colby was on 50s, he rode this. Hauled ass!

As far as the PW50...my 3yr old rides one. Good for young kids to learn on.

You're right i was referring to the honda 50.

**davbrucas** · 01-05-2011, 03:52 PM

Originally posted by lo3oz View Post

I'm just being a parts snob today.. but i won't run cheap pistons in my engines!

From some reading, wiseco pistons are forged, and the pro-x are cast. A lot of the PWC guys (where i see most of the opinions) will run either wiseco sudco or pro-x, and stay away from WSM.

I wouldnt run cheap stuff in my bike either, but in an 8yr old beginner's bike I have no problem with it. Now the kids that are always at 10k rpms everywhere, no.