Peeps with a green thumb..

[JordonMusser]

I ripped out most of the shrubs in front of my house. I need to prep the bed and replant more shrubs.

How do I get rid of all the weeds in the flower bed? Since there are no bushes there right now- do I just till the bitch up? WIll the remains of the weeds re grow?

One of the most annoying is those thorn vine things. I want all that shit gone before I replant.

[forbes]

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[Lone Sailor]

You can till it up, that really help in the beginning, but that's the bad thing about weeds, they germinate like mofo and it won't be long before you're pulling new weeds again. Best thing to do, from my experience, is to just start with a clean slate and then go out once a week and maintain it by pulling any visible weeds and also by using a weed control product that is safe for your new shrubs. That will help keep them at bay a little bit more.

[mstng86]

Yup, till it, pull by hands, and if you use a weed product, make sure it is ok with the shrubs you are planting.

[Lason]

What about one of those black sheets you lay on top of the soil? You cut holes in it and plant your plants but it blocks weeds and grass I thought. I dont know what its called but I pulled it up at my house when I first moved in and pulled up the shrubs. Seemed to do a good job.

**EDIT** This stuff

http://www.homedepot.com/Outdoors-Garden-Center-Landscape-Supplies-Weed-Barrier-Underlayment/h_d1/N-5yc1vZbx4q/h_d2/Navigation?catalogId=10053&Nu=P_PARENT_ID&langId=-1&storeId=10051&searchNav=true

[Lone Sailor]

What about one of those black sheets you lay on top of the soil? You cut holes in it and plant your plants but it blocks weeds and grass I thought. I dont know what its called but I pulled it up at my house when I first moved in and pulled up the shrubs. Seemed to do a good job.

**EDIT** This stuff
http://www.homedepot.com/Outdoors-Ga...searchNav=true

That is an option too, but it is a bit of work to dig up the entire area you're wanting to protect and lay that stuff down and then cover it back up. Most people don't want to bother with it, but it does provide an extra barrier. It's by no means a 100% weed proof though.

[Lason]

That is an option too, but it is a bit of work to dig up the entire area you're wanting to protect and lay that stuff down and then cover it back up. Most people don't want to bother with it, but it does provide an extra barrier. It's by no means a 100% weed proof though.

Well he said he is going to till it up, all he would have to do is lay this cloth on top of the dirt, cut an X where he wants to plant and plant the shrub. Then cover the cloth up with mulch. If he covers it with dirt then grass will surely grow over the cloth I would think.

[mstng86]

That cloth works for 80% of it. I still got some stuff right in the middle of my bed, and the edges. The edges are the easiest spots for weeds to grow with that cloth.

[Lone Sailor]

Well he said he is going to till it up, all he would have to do is lay this cloth on top of the dirt, cut an X where he wants to plant and plant the shrub. Then cover the cloth up with mulch. If he covers it with dirt then grass will surely grow over the cloth I would think.

Tilling is good, but he's still going to have to shovel the dirt back so he can lay the cloth down and then cover it back up. The tiller doesn't do any shovel work. That's all I'm saying.

[yellowstang]

Spray the hell out of it with Roundup and also get some of that brush/ivy killer shit and spray that. Wait about a week and it's safe to plant again (it says you can do it sooner, but I waited like 10 days before I layed out 5 pallets of sod when I did that to my back yard).




Planting New Grass
The Scotts Company, which manufactures Roundup, recommends that consumers wait three days after applying the herbicide before replanting with lawn grass. Residual herbicide in the soil could be harmful to new grass seed or sod. This guideline is the same for three formulations of the product: Roundup Weed & Grass Killer, Roundup Weed & Grass Killer Plus and Roundup Weed & Grass Killer Super Concentrate.

Planting Other Things
The Roundup product label suggests a waiting period of one day before planting ornamental plants or flowers in an area where you have applied the herbicide.



Read more: Roundup Grass Weed Killer: How Long After Application Can I Plant New Grass? | eHow.com http://www.ehow.com/facts_6969519_ro...#ixzz1pxzEqkhS

[JordonMusser]

Yea I was considering the "soak the place with weed killer" method. Might do that, woudl rather just till and go.. but dont want this crap coming back quickly.

I plan to lay down fabric, and a LOT of mulch

[yellowstang]

Depending on how large the area is, I bought one of those 2 gallon pump sprayers, filled it with water and measured the amount of concentrated Round-Up to use in it (added a tad bit extra) and sprayed down my entire back yard.

[AdamLX]

Depending on how large the area is, I bought one of those 2 gallon pump sprayers, filled it with water and measured the amount of concentrated Round-Up to use in it (added a tad bit extra) and sprayed down my entire back yard.

Pull as much up by hand then grab a pump sprayer like mentioned above followed by fabric.

[sorcrazy]

Tilling is good, but he's still going to have to shovel the dirt back so he can lay the cloth down and then cover it back up. The tiller doesn't do any shovel work. That's all I'm saying.

When you lay the cloth you just lay it on top of where you plan to plant. Why do you need to dig out then lay down and put dirt on top that fixes nothing. Most weeds grow close to the surface at first and work there root system side ways to spread fast.

Best bet spray (the warmer the better), till within 8 hrs, mound up, cover with weed block, cover with mulch a minimum 3in. Then you can go back and place plants on mulch to stage. Then move mulch, cut, remove a little dirt and drop plant in place with it about 6-8in above current dirt level, push mulch back around plant. Remember newly planted plant will settle an in or two and the 3in of mulch pushed up to plant stem.

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[bcoop]

When you lay the cloth you just lay it on top of where you plan to plant. Why do you need to dig out then lay down and put dirt on top that fixes nothing. Most weeds grow close to the surface at first and work there root system side ways to spread fast.

Best bet spray (the warmer the better), till within 8 hrs, mound up, cover with weed block, cover with mulch a minimum 3in. Then you can go back and place plants on mulch to stage. Then move mulch, cut, remove a little dirt and drop plant in place with it about 6-8in above current dirt level, push mulch back around plant. Remember newly planted plant will settle an in or two and the 3in of mulch pushed up to plant stem.

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This. You cover the cloth with mulch, not dirt. I'm doing this now to the other side of my flower bed. Going scorched earth approach with Roundup, pull dead shit out, till, bring in some good soil, cover with weed cloth, plant, run my drip irrigation, then cover with mulch.


Also, don't be cheap on the cloth. The longer it's rated for, the thicker it is and the better it will work. Buy the 20 or 30 yr, can't remember which it is. That way you aren't complaining about how it sucks, and digging it up in 2 years.