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    Some atheists are such crybabies. They are really anti-Christian...



    Court Dismisses Suit Over National Day of Prayer
    MADISON, Wis.—A federal appeals court on Thursday threw out a ruling that the National Day of Prayer is unconstitutional and ordered that a lawsuit challenging President Barack Obama's right to proclaim the day be dismissed.

    A three-judge panel of the Seventh U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals ruled the Madison, Wis.-based Freedom From Religion Foundation didn't have standing to sue because while they disagree with the president's proclamation, it has not caused them any harm.

    "A feeling of alienation cannot suffice as injury," the appeals court said.

    U.S. District Judge Barbara Crabb ruled in April 2010 that the national prayer day was unconstitutional because it amounts to a call for religious action. Judge Crabb said the government can no more enact laws supporting a day of prayer than it can encourage citizens to fast during Ramadan, attend a synagogue or practice magic. The president appealed.

    The Freedom From Religion Foundation issued a Thursday statement saying it would seek a review by the full appeals court. Foundation co-president Annie Laurie Gaylor called the decision cowardly.

    "This decision is part of an ominous trend in the federal courts to deny Americans the right to challenge church-state violations," the Rev. Barry W. Lynn, executive director of Americans United for Separation of Church and State said in a prepared statement. That group filed a brief in support of the case.

    Obama spokesman Matt Lehrich had no immediate comment.

    The appeals court said in an opinion written by Chief Judge Frank Easterbrook that while the National Day of Prayer proclamation speaks to all citizens, no one is obliged to pray "any more than a person would be obliged to hand over his money if the President asked all citizens to support the Red Cross or other charities."

    The proclamation is a request, not a demand, the appeals court said. The president frequently calls on citizens to do things they prefer not to do, possibly on religious or political grounds, the court said. However, the Republican Party would not have standing to bring a lawsuit against the president if he speaks to his supporters or tries to sway the undecided, Judge Easterbrook wrote.

    The opinion cites President Abraham Lincoln's second inaugural address, which mentions God seven times and prayer three times.

    "The address is chiseled in stone at the Lincoln Memorial on the National Mall," Judge Easterbrook wrote. "An argument that the prominence of these words injures every citizen, and that the Judicial Branch could order them to be blotted out, would be dismissed as preposterous."

    Congress established the day in 1952 and in 1988 set the first Thursday in May as the day for presidents to issue proclamations asking Americans to pray. The Freedom From Religion Foundation, a group of atheists and agnostics, filed a lawsuit against the federal government in 2008 arguing the day violated the separation of church and state.

    Obama's administration countered that the statute simply acknowledges the role of religion in the U.S.
    Originally posted by racrguy
    What's your beef with NPR, because their listeners are typically more informed than others?
    Originally posted by racrguy
    Voting is a constitutional right, overthrowing the government isn't.

  • #2
    We had a choice between a national day or prayer??

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Sean88gt View Post
      We had a choice between a national day or prayer??
      Not anymore. It was dimissed.
      Originally posted by BradM
      But, just like condoms and women's rights, I don't believe in them.
      Originally posted by Leah
      In other news: Brent's meat melts in your mouth.

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      • #4
        Atheists are some of the stupidest people you'll ever meet. Even if you're not at all religious, you'll realize how stupid atheists are. For about 27 different reasons. Its no wonder they're largely liberals.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by StanleyTweedle View Post
          Atheists are some of the stupidest people you'll ever meet. Even if you're not at all religious, you'll realize how stupid atheists are. For about 27 different reasons. Its no wonder they're largely liberals.

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          • #6
            My take is that generally you don't hear from the smart atheists. They have convinced themselves they are right with some logical argument. But the dumb ones are really fucking annoying and yes, most of them happen to be liberals.
            Originally posted by racrguy
            What's your beef with NPR, because their listeners are typically more informed than others?
            Originally posted by racrguy
            Voting is a constitutional right, overthrowing the government isn't.

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            • #7
              Exactly. You'd never hear from a smart one. They'd have already consigned themselves to their beliefs, and who cares what anyone else thinks cause they just don't believe in it. For the masses of stupid ones, its a "want". They don't want to believe in that stuff, so they have to downplay it as much as they can in every way they can. Which of course turns them into precisely what they hate. They become just like the religious zealot, who also wants to believe something.

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              • #8
                I don't believe in god, but even I can see that a declared national day of prayer does nothing to me. No legal obligation = no care. They'd have an argument if the day of prayer were mandatory, but whoever brought the suit in the first place is just a sissy.
                ZOMBIE REAGAN FOR PRESIDENT 2016!!! heh

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                • #9
                  No different than Mother's Day, Father's Day, etc. If someone doesn't want to observe it fine, but to file a lawsuit is complete BS.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Yale View Post
                    I don't believe in god, but even I can see that a declared national day of prayer does nothing to me. No legal obligation = no care. They'd have an argument if the day of prayer were mandatory, but whoever brought the suit in the first place is just a sissy.
                    Better watch it Yale, you're one of the stupidest people on the planet, according to Mr. Mensa.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by StanleyTweedle View Post
                      They become just like the religious zealot, who also wants to believe something.
                      lol, it's ironic. I understand the PoV fully cause I get tired of SOME of them PREACHING to me about their BELIEFS.
                      Originally posted by MR EDD
                      U defend him who use's racial slurs like hes drinking water.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by racrguy View Post
                        Better watch it Yale, you're one of the stupidest people on the planet, according to Mr. Mensa.
                        Nope. You won't hear yale whining and crying about religion constantly like you do. He doesn't believe in it and goes about his business. He might discuss it but he doesn't have that "hater" slant that you do. Do you just whine and cry about everything that totally doesn't effect you, and that you don't have to participate in? Or is it just that one subject?

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by StanleyTweedle View Post
                          Atheists are some of the stupidest people you'll ever meet. Even if you're not at all religious, you'll realize how stupid atheists are. For about 27 different reasons. Its no wonder they're largely liberals.
                          Originally posted by StanleyTweedle View Post
                          Nope. You won't hear yale whining and crying about religion constantly like you do. He doesn't believe in it and goes about his business. He might discuss it but he doesn't have that "hater" slant that you do. Do you just whine and cry about everything that totally doesn't effect you, and that you don't have to participate in? Or is it just that one subject?
                          Yeah, you're first post totally didn't deserve his follow up. He is obviously the the whiner, cryer, and hater. Where'd you park the squad car, Dick Tracy?

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                          • #14
                            Uh... I said that all that stuff cause it all relates to the OP... soooo...

                            But you're the same guy, aren't you. Every time me and that guy get into it, you show up out of the blue to give him a helping hand. Nice.

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                            • #15
                              Some people are better verbal assassins than I. I've already come to the conclusion you aren't worth arguing with because you're an idiot with poor arguing points, and I'm not the only person that's come to this conclusion.

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