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  • Major bill to rein in homeowners associations passes Texas Senate

    About damn time.




    By JESSICA MEYERS

    Staff Writer

    jmeyers@dallasnews.com

    Published 06 April 2011 12:19 AM



    A comprehensive bill to rein in homeowners associations sailed through the Senate on Tuesday, with homeowner advocates calling it a barometer of possible action on the issue.

    The bill, sponsored by Royce West, D-Dallas, includes a litany of regulations and would require associations to show greater transparency, broaden voting rights, ensure homeowners pay late dues before attorney fees and stop foreclosure without a court order. Currently, HOAs must send only a certified letter warning of impending foreclosure.

    Some aspects of the bill, such as limits on solar panel bans and provisions preventing overseas military from returning to foreclosed homes, have already passed the Senate in separate versions.

    “Homeowners associations are great quasigovernmental entities, but sometimes they go too far,” said West, a longtime advocate for making HOAs more accountable to homeowners. “I recognize you have to have political balance … and you can be assured whatever comes back [from the House], the heart of it will be this particular bill.”

    A similar bill passed the House last session but failed by one vote in the Senate.

    “This is a litmus test,” said Robert Doggett, a lobbyist for the Texas Housing Justice League, which belongs to the HOA Reform Coalition. “It’s going to move the ball forward.”

    Association representatives, developers and homeowner supporters — who have generally been in conflict — applauded efforts to find balance between property rights and community aesthetics.

    “We are hopeful that we are closer than we’ve ever been,” said Sandra Denton, chairwoman of the Texas Community Association Advocates. Attempts to establish HOA regulations have failed in both chambers for more than a decade.

    The bill would grant voters the right to suspend or invoke an HOA’s foreclosure ability by a two-thirds vote. But it wouldn’t put an outright ban on foreclosures, which frustrates some homeowners.

    “There are a lot of good things in the bill, but they surrounded it by bad stuff,” said Harvella Jones, president of the National Homeowners Advocate Group. “Foreclosure is unconstitutional.”

    The bill now moves to the House, where lawmakers have placed a handful of bills with similar elements on the fast track to passage.

    What the Senate bill would do on key homeowners association issues:

    Transparency: Provide greater notice to buyers about their HOAs, require open meetings and access to association records, and enhance homeowner voting rights and their ability to hold meetings.

    Solar panels: Restrict bans on solar panels.

    Priority of payments: Require most HOAs to establish alternative payment plans for late dues, and ensure homeowners pay late dues before having to pay attorney fees and fines.

    Foreclosure: Require HOAs to obtain a court order to foreclose, allow homeowners to determine by a two-thirds vote whether their HOA should have foreclosure authority, and help prevent foreclosures upon homeowners on active military duty.

  • #2
    The best thing would be if everyone just begins refusing to even look at buying/ building a home in an HOA. Eventuall it will hurt the pocketbooks of the HOA leaders and they will fade out.
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    • #3
      I'd like to see it so that an HOA can be voted out of existance with a 2/3rds vote. That is how mine is set up.
      Originally posted by racrguy
      What's your beef with NPR, because their listeners are typically more informed than others?
      Originally posted by racrguy
      Voting is a constitutional right, overthrowing the government isn't.

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      • #4
        There is a legit place for HOA's. The problem is that the power they have has gone too far. For instance, telling me that I can't have a 100' flagpole cemented in the front yard is a reasonable rule. Not allowing the US or Texas flags to be flown at all is not reasonable.

        That said, my next house will not have an HOA.

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        • #5
          While I used to be completely against HOA's I am now interested in houses that are in them but am really nervous. My neighbor down the street decided he was going to buy a junked out vette and park it in his driveway, then a week later a '62 caddy that looks like its been in a field for 30 years and now a early 70's chevy truck. Between him and the people who refuse to repair their houses, I am starting to see the light in HOA's but I firmly believe they have way too much power. I think they should be able to fine residents and sue for that money but they have no buisness taking peoples homes.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Sgt Beavis View Post
            There is a legit place for HOA's. The problem is that the power they have has gone too far. For instance, telling me that I can't have a 100' flagpole cemented in the front yard is a reasonable rule. Not allowing the US or Texas flags to be flown at all is not reasonable.

            That said, my next house will not have an HOA.
            I don't know what people expect with them. The average person is a god damn idiot these days. Now get a herd of them together and the stupidity goes up exponentially.

            I have only been to one HOA meeting and it consisted of a whole lot of mouth breathing retards.

            The president of the HOA explained that someone ran over a curb on the major street out front and made sure to mention that the guy who did it was "in a late model Viper" stressing the Viper as some sort of sinful device that only a pedophile or rapist would own. Then some old bag took at least five minutes to rant on and on about people parking on the street in front of their house. Now, she did say that it was making the neighborhood "look like Garland" which I found hysterical but beyond that all I could think was "don't you have anything better to worry about?" The morons would shit their pants if they caught a glimpse of my guns.

            They are good for keeping people's cars out of their yards and making sure lawns get mowed. Beyond that they are worthless to me.
            Originally posted by racrguy
            What's your beef with NPR, because their listeners are typically more informed than others?
            Originally posted by racrguy
            Voting is a constitutional right, overthrowing the government isn't.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Lason View Post
              While I used to be completely against HOA's I am now interested in houses that are in them but am really nervous. My neighbor down the street decided he was going to buy a junked out vette and park it in his driveway, then a week later a '62 caddy that looks like its been in a field for 30 years and now a early 70's chevy truck. Between him and the people who refuse to repair their houses, I am starting to see the light in HOA's but I firmly believe they have way too much power. I think they should be able to fine residents and sue for that money but they have no buisness taking peoples homes.
              Ask for a copy of the HOA's bylaws when you make an offer on a house. Make sure your offer is conditional upon the bylaws being suitable to you.

              By a house that costs over $200K and you will price out the shitbags around here.
              Originally posted by racrguy
              What's your beef with NPR, because their listeners are typically more informed than others?
              Originally posted by racrguy
              Voting is a constitutional right, overthrowing the government isn't.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Broncojohnny View Post
                They are good for keeping people's cars out of their yards and making sure lawns get mowed. Beyond that they are worthless to me.
                That's what city ordinances are for.

                My HOA was formed for one simple purpose, the city was installing sidewalks and was expecting homeowners to pay for them. It's been 10 years now and I still don't have or want a sidewalk. The streets that aren't part of our HOA have them though, along with the shorter driveways, screaming kids and dogs crapping in their yards.

                There isn't anything my deed about the HOA though and they have virtually no power, other than the right to maintain a checking account and hold meetings. Membership is completely optional and the dues are $5 a year.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by BP View Post
                  That's what city ordinances are for.
                  Good luck getting those assholes to do anything.
                  Originally posted by racrguy
                  What's your beef with NPR, because their listeners are typically more informed than others?
                  Originally posted by racrguy
                  Voting is a constitutional right, overthrowing the government isn't.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Broncojohnny View Post
                    Good luck getting those assholes to do anything.


                    I actually got a ton of problems resolved in my old neighborhood by reporting them. There was only one issue that I had to report 2 or 3 times before it was fixed. I felt bad for doing it at first, until I had the house up for sale and I realized what kind of image some of that shit would give to potential buyers.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by BP View Post
                      That's what city ordinances are for.

                      My HOA was formed for one simple purpose, the city was installing sidewalks and was expecting homeowners to pay for them. It's been 10 years now and I still don't have or want a sidewalk. The streets that aren't part of our HOA have them though, along with the shorter driveways, screaming kids and dogs crapping in their yards.

                      There isn't anything my deed about the HOA though and they have virtually no power, other than the right to maintain a checking account and hold meetings. Membership is completely optional and the dues are $5 a year.
                      That is what city ordinances are for. My neighbor had a pos truck parked on the street with expired registration. It was leaking oil and was eye sore. I called the code enforcement. They came out and ticketed the truck. He parked in drive way for couple weeks. Then sold it. He was scrubbing the hell to oil spots in driveway but never cleaned the street
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                      • #12
                        Hopefully the state will tackle something critical, such as the problem with illegal aliens or onerous property taxes?

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Sean88gt View Post
                          Hopefully the state will tackle something critical, such as the problem with illegal aliens or onerous property taxes?
                          What is their excuse for not actually doing anything about the tide of illegals? They don't have the money or something? I mean I know its the fed's job and all but its become quite obvious that they have no intention of ever fixing it. So knowing that, what is the state of texas' excuse for not fixing it? I realize it would cost a shitload...

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by StanleyTweedle View Post
                            What is their excuse for not actually doing anything about the tide of illegals? They don't have the money or something? I mean I know its the fed's job and all but its become quite obvious that they have no intention of ever fixing it. So knowing that, what is the state of texas' excuse for not fixing it? I realize it would cost a shitload...
                            Rick Perry's excuse is "it's the Fed's job". The legislature's excuse, probably that it will cost them the votes of illegals.
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                            • #15
                              Rick Perry quit campaigning, so all of the talk was just that. Texas should have begun addressing this problem 25 years ago in a serious, measure manner. They've done nothing, will continue to do nothing and mexicans will claim Texas by default in 10-20 years. Texas in 2025 will be far different than it is now.

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