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    Those sneaky communists just come up in the strangest places these days....




    CAUGHT ON TAPE: Former SEIU Official Reveals Secret Plan To Destroy JP Morgan, Crash The Stock Market, And Redistribute Wealth In America
    Henry Blodget | Mar. 22, 2011, 9:44 AM | 161,087 | 458
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    Stephen Lerner, formerly of SEIU.
    A former official of one of the country's most-powerful unions, SEIU, has a secret plan to "destabilize" the country.

    The plan is designed to destroy JP Morgan, nuke the stock market, and weaken Wall Street's grip on power, thus creating the conditions necessary for a redistribution of wealth and a change in government.

    The former SEIU official, Stephen Lerner, spoke in a closed session at a Pace University forum last weekend.

    The Blaze procured what appears to be a tape of Lerner's remarks. Many Americans will undoubtely sympathize with and support them. Still, the "destabilization" plan is startling in its specificity, especially coming so close on the heels of the financial crisis.

    Lerner said that unions and community organizations are, for all intents and purposes, dead. The only way to achieve their goals, therefore--the redistribution of wealth and the return of "$17 trillion" stolen from the middle class by Wall Street--is to "destabilize the country."

    Lerner's plan is to organize a mass, coordinated "strike" on mortgage, student loan, and local government debt payments--thus bringing the banks to the edge of insolvency and forcing them to renegotiate the terms of the loans. This destabilization and turmoil, Lerner hopes, will also crash the stock market, isolating the banking class and allowing for a transfer of power.

    Lerner's plan starts by attacking JP Morgan Chase in early May, with demonstrations on Wall Street, protests at the annual shareholder meeting, and then calls for a coordinated mortgage strike.

    Lerner also says explicitly that, although the attack will benefit labor unions, it cannot be seen as being organized by them. It must therefore be run by community organizations.

    Lerner was ousted from SEIU last November, reportedly for spending millions of the union's dollars trying to pursue a plan like the one he details here. It is not clear what, if any, power and influence he currently wields. His main message--that Wall Street won the financial crisis, that inequality in this country is hitting record levels, and that there appears to be no other way to stop the trend--will almost certainly resonate.

    A transcript of Lerner's full reported remarks is below, courtesy of The Blaze. We have heard the tape, but we have not independently verified that the voice is Lerner's. You can listen to the tape here.

    Here are the key remarks:

    Unions are almost dead. We cannot survive doing what we do but the simple fact of the matter is community organizations are almost dead also. And if you think about what we need to do it may give us some direction which is essentially what the folks that are in charge - the big banks and everything - what they want is stability.

    There are actually extraordinary things we could do right now to start to destabilize the folks that are in power and start to rebuild a movement.

    For example, 10% of homeowners are underwater right their home they are paying more for it then its worth 10% of those people are in strategic default, meaning they are refusing to pay but they are staying in their home that's totally spontaneous they figured out it takes a year to kick me out of my home because foreclosure is backed up

    If you could double that number you would you could put banks at the edge of insolvency again.

    Students have a trillion dollar debt

    We have an entire economy that is built on debt and banks so the question would be what would happen if we organized homeowners in mass to do a mortgage strike if we get half a million people to agree it would literally cause a new finical crisis for the banks not for us we would be doing quite well we wouldn't be paying anything...

    We have to think much more creatively. The key thing... What does the other side fear the most - they fear disruption. They fear uncertainty. Every article about Europe says in they rioted in Greece the markets went down

    The folks that control this country care about one thing how the stock market goes what the bond market does how the bonuses goes. We have a very simple strategy:

    How do we bring down the stock market
    How do we bring down their bonuses
    How do we interfere with there ability to be rich...
    So a bunch of us around the country think who would be a really good company to hate we decided that would be JP Morgan Chase and so we are going to roll out over the next couple of months what would hopefully be an exciting campaign about JP Morgan Chase that is really about challenge the power of Wall Street.

    And so what we are looking at is the first week in May can we get enough people together starting now to really have an week of action in New York I don't want to give any details because I don't know if there are any police agents in the room.

    The goal would be that we will roll out of New York the first week of May. We will connect three ideas

    that we are not broke there is plenty of money
    they have the money - we need to get it back
    and that they are using Bloomberg and other people in government as the vehicle to try and destroy us

    And so we need to take on those folks at the same time. And that we will start here we are going to look at a week of civil disobedience - direct action all over the city. Then roll into the JP Morgan shareholder meeting which they moved out of New York because I guess they were afraid because of Columbus.

    There is going to be a ten state mobilization to try and shut down that meeting and then looking at bank shareholder meetings around the country and try and create some moments like Madison except where we are on offense instead of defense

    Where we have brave and heroic battles challenging the power of the giant corporations. We hope to inspire a much bigger movement about redistributing wealth and power in the country and that labor can’t do itself that community groups can’t do themselves but maybe we can work something new and different that can be brave enough and daring and nimble enough to do that kind of thing.



    FULL TRANSCRIPT FROM THE BLAZE

    SPEAKER: Stephen Lerner. Speaker at the Left Forum 2011 "Towards a Politics of Solidarity" Pace University March 19, 2011

    Speaker Bio: Stephen Lerner is the architect of the SEIU's groundbreaking Justice for Janitors campaign. He led the union's banking and finance campaign and has partnered with unions and groups in Europe, South American and elsewhere in campaigns to hold financial institutions accountable. As director of the union's private equity project, he launched a long campaign to expose the over-leveraged feeding frenzy of private equity firms during the boom years that led to the ensuing economic disaster.

    TRANSCRIPT:

    It feels to me after a long time of being on defense that something is starting to turn in the world and we just have to decide if we are on defense or offense

    Maybe there is a different way to look at some of theses questions it’s hard for me to think about any part of organizing without thinking what just happened with this economic crisis and what it means

    I don't know how to have a discussion about labor and community if we don't first say what do we need to do at this time in history what is the strategy that gives us some chance of winning because I spent my life time as a union organizer justice for janitors a lot of things

    It seems we are at a moment where the world is going to get much much worse or much much better

    Unions are almost dead we cannot survive doing what we do but the simple fact of the matter is community organizations are almost dead also and if you think about what we need to do it may give us some direction which is essentially what the folks that are in charge - the big banks and everything - what they want is stability

    Every time there is a crisis in the world they say, well, the markets are stable.

    What's changed in America is the economy doing well has nothing to do with the rest of us

    They figured out that they don't need us to be rich they can do very well in a global market without us so what does this have to do with community and labor organizing more.

    We need to figure out in a much more through direct action more concrete way how we are really trying to disrupt and create uncertainty for capital for how corporations operate

    The thing about a boom and bust economy is it is actually incredibly fragile.

    There are actually extraordinary things we could do right now to start to destabilize the folks that are in power and start to rebuild a movement.

    For example, 10% of homeowners are underwater right their home they are paying more for it then its worth 10% of those people are in strategic default, meaning they are refusing to pay but they are staying in their home that's totally spontaneous they figured out it takes a year to kick me out of my home because foreclosure is backed up

    If you could double that number you would you could put banks at the edge of insolvency again.

    Students have a trillion dollar debt

    We have an entire economy that is built on debt and banks so the question would be what would happen if we organized homeowners in mass to do a mortgage strike if we get half a million people to agree it would literally cause a new finical crisis for the banks not for us we would be doing quite well we wouldn't be paying anything.
    Originally posted by racrguy
    What's your beef with NPR, because their listeners are typically more informed than others?
    Originally posted by racrguy
    Voting is a constitutional right, overthrowing the government isn't.

  • #2
    Government is being strangled by debt

    The four things we could do that could really upset wall street

    One is if city and state and other government entities demanded to renegotiate their debt
    and you might say why would the banks ever do it - because city and counties could say we won’t do business with you in the future if you won’t renegotiate the debt now

    So we could leverage the power we have of government and say two things we won’t do business with you JP Morgan Chase anymore unless you do two things: you reduce the price of our interest and second you rewrite the mortgages for everybody in the communities

    We could make them do that

    The second thing is there is a whole question in Europe about students’ rates in debt structure. What would happen if students said we are not going to pay. It’s a trillion dollars. Think about republicans screaming about debt a trillion dollars in student debt

    There is a third thing we can think about what if public employee unions instead of just being on the defensive put on the collective bargaining table when they negotiate they say we demand as a condition of negotiation that the government renegotiate - it’s crazy that you’re paying too much interest to your buddies the bankers it’s a strike issue - we will strike unless you force the banks to renegotiate/

    Then if you add on top of that if we really thought about moving the kind of disruption in Madison but moving that to Wall Street and moving that to other cities around the country

    We basically said you stole seventeen trillion dollars - you've improvised us and we are going to make it impossible for you to operate

    Labor can’t lead this right now so if labor can’t lead but we are a critical part of it we do have money we have millions of members who are furious

    But I don't think this kind of movement can happen unless community groups and other activists take the lead.

    If we really believe that we are in a transformative stage of what's happening in capitalism

    Then we need to confront this in a serious way and develop really ability to put a boot in the wheel then we have to think not about labor and community alliances we have to think about how together we are building something that really has the capacity to disrupt how the system operates

    We need to think about a whole new way of thinking about this not as a partnership but building something new.

    We have to think much more creatively. The key thing... What does the other side fear the most - they fear disruption. They fear uncertainty. Every article about Europe says in they rioted in Greece the markets went down

    The folks that control this country care about one thing how the stock market goes what the bond market does how the bonuses goes. We have a very simple strategy:

    How do we bring down the stock market
    How do we bring down their bonuses
    How do we interfere with there ability to be rich

    And that means we have to politically isolate them, economically isolate them and disrupt them

    It’s not all theory i’ll do a pitch.

    So a bunch of us around the country think who would be a really good company to hate we decided that would be JP Morgan Chase and so we are going to roll out over the next couple of months what would hopefully be an exciting campaign about JP Morgan Chase that is really about challenge the power of Wall Street.

    And so what we are looking at is the first week in May can we get enough people together starting now to really have an week of action in New York I don't want to give any details because I don't know if there are any police agents in the room.

    The goal would be that we will roll out of New York the first week of May. We will connect three ideas

    that we are not broke there is plenty of money
    they have the money - we need to get it back
    and that they are using Bloomberg and other people in government as the vehicle to try and destroy us

    And so we need to take on those folks at the same time

    and that we will start here we are going to look at a week of civil disobedience - direct action all over the city
    then roll into the JP Morgan shareholder meeting which they moved out of New York because I guess they were afraid because of Columbus.

    There is going to be a ten state mobilization it try and shut down that meeting and then looking at bank shareholder meetings around the country and try and create some moments like Madison except where we are on offense instead of defense

    Where we have brave and heroic battles challenging the power of the giant corporations. We hope to inspire a much bigger movement about redistributing wealth and power in the country and that labor can’t do itself that community groups can’t do themselves but maybe we can work something new and different that can be brave enough and daring and nimble enough to do that kind of thing.
    Originally posted by racrguy
    What's your beef with NPR, because their listeners are typically more informed than others?
    Originally posted by racrguy
    Voting is a constitutional right, overthrowing the government isn't.

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    • #3


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      Seven Questions
      By Stephen Lerner on August 11, 2010 12:13 PM
      It's official. Political ad season has begun. It's only August and, already, every other commercial is another campaign ad full of attacks and short on facts.

      But while candidates bicker over petty politics, our communities are still reeling from the economic crash caused by Wall Street's recklessness and greed. We need to demand straight answers on direct questions from all of the candidates running for office.


      The fundamental question is this: will they take concrete steps to hold Wall Street's gigantic banks accountable? We don't want vague promises, we need commitments that we can hold them accountable to. Help us get answers: http://action.seiu.org/sevenquestions

      Yesterday, thousands of Americans gathered at big banks in their town, delivering a bill for the billions of dollars banks are draining from their communities. These are people who see waves of foreclosures sweeping through their neighborhood. They see their hometown laying off police and firefighters so the city can make payments to the Wall Street banks.

      For these Americans, getting back control of our economy from the big banks is priority one. And their next stop is every constituent office and campaign HQ in their area. They'll be asking seven simple questions to every candidate who wants their vote in November.

      Click here to see the questions and show the politicians where you stand: http://action.seiu.org/sevenquestions.

      As we talk with the candidates, we'll show you how their answers match up with yours - and who took Wall Street's side, instead.

      There's a lot of money to be made for a politician that does Wall Street's bidding. Going up against the banks takes courage. Will you help show every candidate who wants to stand up to Wall Street that there are thousands of voters standing with them? Click here to answer the seven questions: http://action.seiu.org/sevenquestions
      Originally posted by racrguy
      What's your beef with NPR, because their listeners are typically more informed than others?
      Originally posted by racrguy
      Voting is a constitutional right, overthrowing the government isn't.

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      • #4
        These mother fuckers need to be brought up on treason charges for trying to bring down the United States economy.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by thesource View Post
          These mother fuckers need to be brought up on treason charges for trying to bring down the United States economy.
          My question is... why are they not?

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          • #6
            Hmmmmm.....

            We elected an organizer for SEIU and ACORN to the office of President, and that's exactly what we got-an organizer for SEIU and ACORN, who has put their agen...
            Originally posted by racrguy
            What's your beef with NPR, because their listeners are typically more informed than others?
            Originally posted by racrguy
            Voting is a constitutional right, overthrowing the government isn't.

            Comment


            • #7
              Originally posted by Broncojohnny View Post
              That's the reason why they're not. Their policies are his policies. He's been trying to wreck the economy since day one.
              "It is in truth not for glory, nor riches, nor honours that we are fighting, but for freedom - for that alone, which no honest man gives up but with life itself."

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              • #8
                I wouldn't mind seeing a lot of those big bankers imprisoned and shortly after, put to death. I'd laugh and throw moldy tomatoes. So I agree with him there. On all the other stuff he can go to hell. Well, I don't know, after a listening to a more of the vid a lot of the stuff I agree with. He is right about a lot of things needed to change. He's just wanting to do it in a communist fashion. But if he ever did have any of these victories that he wants, it wouldn't go the way he wants. It would just end up being a big win for us all.
                Last edited by SMEGMA STENCH; 03-23-2011, 05:59 PM.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by StanleyTweedle View Post
                  I wouldn't mind seeing a lot of those big bankers imprisoned and shortly after, put to death. I'd laugh and throw moldy tomatoes. So I agree with him there. On all the other stuff he can go to hell. Well, I don't know, after a listening to a more of the vid a lot of the stuff I agree with. He is right about a lot of things needed to change. He's just wanting to do it in a communist fashion. But if he ever did have any of these victories that he wants, it wouldn't go the way he wants. It would just end up being a big win for us all.
                  Bullshit it would. What he advocates is basically what happened in the Soviet Union, the nationalization of wealth. When these people get their way they just use the wealth they take as their own. It is human nature to do so and it is the primary reason why communism fails. There is still an upper class but it based on political power rather than money.

                  You do realize that if you make over ~$40K a year that you are in the top 50% of wage earners in this country don't you? That means he would take your money and give it to someone else if he had his way. Don't think for a minute that government confiscation of wealth would stop at "the rich".

                  Fact is, "the rich" in our society are a side effect of capitalism. The system isn't perfect on the one hand but on the other you are free to become one of them if you are innovative. I'd rather have that system than one where the dirtbag living under a bridge is entitled equally to the fruits of my labor. Fuck that and fuck anyone who advocates that.
                  Originally posted by racrguy
                  What's your beef with NPR, because their listeners are typically more informed than others?
                  Originally posted by racrguy
                  Voting is a constitutional right, overthrowing the government isn't.

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                  • #10
                    Yeah but I just meant that if he did achieve any of his small victories, the restructuring that came afterwards wouldn't go the way he and his commies wanted. I'd guess that it would likely just smack banks back into their true place or something.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by StanleyTweedle View Post
                      Yeah but I just meant that if he did achieve any of his small victories, the restructuring that came afterwards wouldn't go the way he and his commies wanted. I'd guess that it would likely just smack banks back into their true place or something.
                      I'm not interesting in trying some experiment to see if this is true. Fuck that.

                      The problem with this country isn't that the rich keep getting richer, it is the fact that the poor feel like they are entitled to wealth with none of the work required to achieve it. Look all around you and you will see people who piss and moan and think they are entitled to a life of leisure just because they have a pulse.
                      Originally posted by racrguy
                      What's your beef with NPR, because their listeners are typically more informed than others?
                      Originally posted by racrguy
                      Voting is a constitutional right, overthrowing the government isn't.

                      Comment


                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Broncojohnny View Post
                        The problem with this country isn't that the rich keep getting richer, it is the fact that the poor feel like they are entitled to wealth with none of the work required to achieve it. Look all around you and you will see people who piss and moan and think they are entitled to a life of leisure just because they have a pulse.
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                        "Self-government won't work without self-discipline." - Paul Harvey

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Broncojohnny View Post
                          I'm not interesting in trying some experiment to see if this is true. Fuck that.

                          The problem with this country isn't that the rich keep getting richer, it is the fact that the poor feel like they are entitled to wealth with none of the work required to achieve it. Look all around you and you will see people who piss and moan and think they are entitled to a life of leisure just because they have a pulse.
                          I agree, but as we all know there has been some major felonies committed by some of those big banks. I'd just like to see punishment dolled out, preferably in the form of the death penalty to discourage that kind of action in the future. They did, and still are, contributing to our financial demise. Nevermind the fact that they can, the very fact that they are willing to just print money says they should be imprisoned. To me, at least. I abhor thievery in all its forms, not just when a little kid steals a candy bar from the grocery store.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by StanleyTweedle View Post
                            I agree, but as we all know there has been some major felonies committed by some of those big banks. I'd just like to see punishment dolled out, preferably in the form of the death penalty to discourage that kind of action in the future. They did, and still are, contributing to our financial demise. Nevermind the fact that they can, the very fact that they are willing to just print money says they should be imprisoned. To me, at least. I abhor thievery in all its forms, not just when a little kid steals a candy bar from the grocery store.
                            Big banks aren't printing money, only the federal reserve can do that. Exactly what specific crimes have the CEOs of big banks committed? Keep in mind, when answering that question, that getting a huge paycheck approved by shareholders and the board of directors is not a crime. Distasteful and shameful? Possibly. A crime? no.
                            Originally posted by racrguy
                            What's your beef with NPR, because their listeners are typically more informed than others?
                            Originally posted by racrguy
                            Voting is a constitutional right, overthrowing the government isn't.

                            Comment


                            • #15
                              It sounds like they've taken to reading Marx.

                              All the preceding classes that got the upper hand sought to fortify their already acquired status by subjecting society at large to their conditions of appropriation. The proletarians cannot become masters of the productive forces of society, except by abolishing their own previous mode of appropriation, and thereby also every other previous mode of appropriation. They have nothing of their own to secure and to fortify; their mission is to destroy all previous securities for, and insurances of, individual property.
                              Men have become the tools of their tools.
                              -Henry David Thoreau

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