This is an interesting read. Makes alot of good points.
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Now I'm just arguing for the sake of arguing.
OC is not a social norm and it’s not going to become one. And open advocacy of OC runs a real risk of dragging all gun owners down into the pit of some serious, no BS gun control. Call me crazy, but for the dubious pleasure (and questionable tactical advantages) of walking down the streets with a pistol on your hip, it just ain’t worth it.
Open carry states:
Alabama
Alaska
Montana
Idaho
Wyoming
Nevada
Arizona
New Mexico
South Dakota
Vermont
Kentucky
Virginia
Open carry–with restrictions (eg. permit requirements):
Utah
North Dakota
Minnesota
Iowa
Tennessee
Mississippi
Georgia
Indiana
Maryland
New Jersey
Rhode Island
Connecticut
Massachusetts
...it's not like people are running for the hills. This is a copy/paste list so no real research on my part so excuse if there are any problems.
I get what you're saying, but surely there would be mass hysteria in these states otherwise right?
It keeps being brought up, but we have locations doing it already. It's seems similar to saying we should make cars go faster then 50, they may break and lose parts. When clearly we see everyday that is not the case.
If I were you though, I'd be a bit nervous though. How the hell are you supposed to tell lawful from unlawful carrying?Originally posted by MR EDDU defend him who use's racial slurs like hes drinking water.
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For the record, there is a case in CA (of all places) where individuals were OC'ing in a restaurant, some thugs saw that and went to rob another place. When they were caught, they said they didn't want to rob the place with the guns."Self-government won't work without self-discipline." - Paul Harvey
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Originally posted by ceyko View PostNow I'm just arguing for the sake of arguing.
What about all these states that allow it?
Open carry states:
Alabama
Alaska
Montana
Idaho
Wyoming
Nevada
Arizona
New Mexico
South Dakota
Vermont
Kentucky
Virginia
Open carry–with restrictions (eg. permit requirements):
Utah
North Dakota
Minnesota
Iowa
Tennessee
Mississippi
Georgia
Indiana
Maryland
New Jersey
Rhode Island
Connecticut
Massachusetts
...it's not like people are running for the hills. This is a copy/paste list so no real research on my part so excuse if there are any problems.
I get what you're saying, but surely there would be mass hysteria in these states otherwise right?
It keeps being brought up, but we have locations doing it already. It's seems similar to saying we should make cars go faster then 50, they may break and lose parts. When clearly we see everyday that is not the case.
If I were you though, I'd be a bit nervous though. How the hell are you supposed to tell lawful from unlawful carrying?
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Originally posted by Machx2 View PostI am not against the bill completely. I believe some training should be added to it is all. I realize almost all people carrying legally are law abiding citizens.
I just wonder how it is all handled in these other states though since I do understand your concerns - as a cop. I suspect if I chose to open carry, I may have to expect some level of increased curiosity from law enforcement.
As mentioned though, I think a lot of people will probably still just conceal carry. Just nice to have the option. We consistently see people (with or without badge showing sometimes I swear) open carry and there is no major problem. Especially if you go to the butch shop in Plano around lunch.Originally posted by MR EDDU defend him who use's racial slurs like hes drinking water.
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there should be no laws that infringe on my right to own and carry any weapon i choose. stupid damn gun laws mean nothing to the criminal that will commit a crime . but how many times has one gone nuts and killed co workers and such where folks aren't armed ? one person armed could take the sob out and end it. you cant wait on the popo to get there to save you. you need to defend yourself and be responsible for your own life.
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Originally posted by bubbaearl View Postthere should be no laws that infringe on my right to own and carry any weapon i choose. stupid damn gun laws mean nothing to the criminal that will commit a crime . but how many times has one gone nuts and killed co workers and such where folks aren't armed ? one person armed could take the sob out and end it. you cant wait on the popo to get there to save you. you need to defend yourself and be responsible for your own life.Originally posted by MR EDDU defend him who use's racial slurs like hes drinking water.
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Originally posted by bubbaearl View Postthere should be no laws that infringe on my right to own and carry any weapon i choose. stupid damn gun laws mean nothing to the criminal that will commit a crime . but how many times has one gone nuts and killed co workers and such where folks aren't armed ? one person armed could take the sob out and end it. you cant wait on the popo to get there to save you. you need to defend yourself and be responsible for your own life.Originally posted by lincolnboyAfter watching Games of Thrones, makes me glad i was not born in those years.
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Originally posted by mikec View PostHow do you legally carry if you're not law abiding?
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Originally posted by Cannonball996 View PostI see gun ownership as a right, one that is guaranteed by the constitution, citizens (not including those who have been disenfranchised due to a felony conviction) should not be required to pay money for classes or for licenses in order to exercise their right.
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