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  • AnthonyS
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    Being PC is now the highest virtue one can achieve thanks to social media.

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  • Trip McNeely
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    Has anyone noticed the parallels with this situation and cancel culture within the US here recently? I mean it's really eerie. Orange man bad has become Putin and everyone that is assumed to be associated with him is being cancelled. Things that make you go hmmmmmmm. Cancel culture has become the new super weapon.

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  • AnthonyS
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    Most people are getting screwed over by all of this. Some are losing their lives or loved ones. I’d love to know who stands to gain in all of this and have people unite to stop them. Sadly I think too many just don’t care as long as FB, Twitter and TMZ tell them they are politically correct.

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  • dcs13
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    The worlds response to the Russian invasion has been interesting..
    I can only imagine how unpopular this "war" is within the Russian rank and file troops.. The literally have no dog in the hunt and could give a crap about Ukraine. The Ukrainians on the other hand have everything to lose. Momentum can be a hell of a game changer...
    I thought it was a PR campaign when they had Condie and the bunch on the sunday shows saying Putin was losing his marbles.. I think they may be right. He's up there in years and wants to be remembered as Putin the Conquerer who brought down the west.. He never counted on dissension in his own country and military...
    Gonna be interesting how this unfolds. The Ukrainians are getting good with those Turkish drones..

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  • 68RR
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    Originally posted by scootro View Post
    Ukrainians are screwed
    I hope you're proven wrong.

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  • scootro
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    Ukrainians are screwed

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  • 68RR
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    More. The Su loss posted above end up being a Su 34.

    Day 12 - March 7 - Regrouping or just gutted?
    Relatively speaking, today was a pretty mild day in the Russia-Ukraine war. The main forces seemed to to stay more or less put. The Russians hit a Mykolaiv residential district with Smerch rockets, which makes very little sense, particularly if the Ukrainian General Staff is right.
    According to them, the Russians are reorganizing units so they can make some more pushes. The single largest one still seems to be trying to break into Kyiv, with something like 7-8 BTGs. I can't make sense of it, the area appears now to be crawling with Territorial Defense carrying AT weapons, and the Ukrainian regulars are there in force.
    At present, if the GenStab is telling the truth, the Russians are holding a belt of villages to Kyiv's northern outskirts, while the Ukrainians are opposite in their own line of villages. The Russian attack is supposed to hit Vyshegorod - i.e. - the next village south on the Chernihiv highway. No maneuvering, no seeking weak points, no misdirection. Just push vehicles down the road into ever-tighter urban terrain full of infantry just waiting for someone to do that. Given the way the Russians have been trained to attack, and the way the Ukrainians are handling their drones and artillery, the main outcome of more RU pressure on this line has to be more Russian dead.
    Meanwhile, at the same time, the Russians have been firing rockets and artillery and dropping bombs at/on all manner of civilian infrastructure. I assume this is Putin's campaign to terrorize the population by destroying standard of living. The problem is, munitions don't grow on trees, so if the RF is going try to develop its military attacks further, wouldn't you think they would be saving up ammunition to make that happen? So how serious, exactly, could these future moves be. Supposedly, there are 17 BTGs swanning around east of Mykolaiv and maybe they're going to head for Dnipro, or maybe the Kaniv crosssing, or maybe Zaporizhia and ITS nuclear plant.
    But in the south especially, it seems like the Russians seem to be trying to compensate for inflexible artillery by calling in air support. This has been, again, if the General Staff is to be believed, in yet more Ru aircraft losses, and absolutely horrific helicopter losses - about 20 in the last day, apparently near Mykolaiv. According to one report two Ukrainian Su-25 pilots gunned a Russian helicopter base and wiped out most of what was on the ground, before getting shot down themselves.
    I am really getting the feeling that someone in the Kremlin has decided the flyboys aren't doing enough, and they should, because the enemy Ukrainians are near their tipping point
    An army running out of ammunition at the outset of a war is a commonplace. So is the fallacy that blasting civilians will end a war by breaking public will to resist. These are real issues the Russian army is facing in Ukraine, and it's not getting easier.
    I think the real problem the Russians have is just heavy losses, particularly in combat troops. If the Ukrainian numbers are roughly accurate, then they probably have suffered 10,000 dead and 30-40,000 wounded, of whom at least 30,000 were hospitalized. This has already started to undermine the Belarusian health system in areas proximate to the fighting - they are running out of beds to treat the wounded. Practically all Russians hit have relatives and loved ones who are upset about that. So now we're seeing reports of the Moscow and Petersburg police running out of jail space to lock up demonstrators.
    How does Putin control this? Can he control it? If he pushes forward his troops take a new wave of losses. The combat units are probably, on average, at half strength or less. If the UAF is set up, it really is looking like the Russians can't do much against those defenses except pound it with heavy artillery, or attack it and get chopped up themselves. So although the RU may have all these BTGs floating around the battle map, many of them have to be close to half strength. Maybe less. How do you dig Ukrainians out of holes with a force like that? Why would you try?
    If he stays put the Ukrainians dig in and pick the time and place to counterattack. Reportedly, the town of Chugaev, with its UAF airfield attached, this is Kharkiv sector, was retaken by yesterday evening.
    Mariupol is another example of, possibly, the RU army just digging itself deeper in a hole. Here a group of Crimea-based units have cut off the town, and the civilians are in awful conditions: no power, no heating, diminishing water, food running out, escape practically impossible. This is Putin's goal, right?
    Well, at the same time, two pretty strong units, the Azov National Guard Regiment and 36 Marine brigade, are in the city in force. They are on familiar ground, they know the ranges, and if the Azov news feed is to be believed over the last 48 hours the Russians have lost something like 8 tanks and a bunch of other equipment, and several dozen killed soldiers trying and failing to break into the defenses. The references to Thermopylae and Donetk Airport are there for anyone wishing to see them. If the Russians fail to take the city, they are at the end of a 150 km+ no alternative supply line, just begging to be cut.
    Sooner or later, the Ukrainians are going to mass forces and start making moves of their own in the south. Russian air might counter it, but, see above, Russian air does not seem to have supremacy of anything in this war. Theoretically, Ukrainian has a solid reserve of combat support units - artillery engineers and units like that - that it should have mobilized at the outset of the war and from which I certainly haven't heard a peep. Are the Ukrainians capable enough to amass a mobile operational reserve and then commit it where the Russian lines are loose. The area Kherson-Zaporizhia-Tokmak-Melitopol seems to be begging for a move like that.
    My guess is the trigger would be immediate threat against Kyiv removed, which it ain't yet.

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  • 68RR
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    Evening Update:
    1. Russian Colonel Konstantin Zizevsky, commander of the 247th Guards Air Assault Regiment, was killed in action over the weekend.
    Unconfirmed reports indicate the regiment has been wiped out by Ukrainian forces. the 247th was part of the 7th Guards Airborne Division, and considered an elite unit. It was a veteran formation that had seen much combat in the Chechen wars, Georgia and the Donbas. The regiment has its own museum in Stavropol.
    2. Huge protests in Russian today resulted in shocking displays of brutality on the part of the Russian police and the arrest of over 4,000 protesters nationwide. If that number is accurate, there are at least 14-15,000 protesters in prison now. Police are now stopping people on the streets of Moscow and examining their phones to see what they are posting and the sites they have visited.
    It remains to be seen if a Totalitarian regime can arrest its way out of increasing domestic unrest.
    3. Ukranian air defenses have downed several Russian aircraft today. Here is the destruction of an SU-25.
    https://twitter.com/IAPonom.../statu...16392763801608...
    4. Russian aircraft and vehicles are using commercial GPS units to navigate. This has been seen in some of their latest-gen attack aircraft, as well as among captured gear found on dead Russian soldiers. One 247th Guard Air Assault Regiment's captain was killed in action and his GPS system found, complete with his home address. The Ukrainians posted photos of it on Twitter.
    5. The flooding story is true, though it may have been magnified. There was a choke point in the road net being used by the Russian convoys at the city of Demydiv, and everything east of the road is under water right now in front of the dam. At very least, this has impaired their off road movement considerably in that area.
    6. Ukrainian counter attacks around Kharkiv have recaptured several towns and inflicted heavy losses on the Russians.
    7. Russian losses for March 6 now are estimated to be over 11,000 men killed. Chief of the UK Defense Staff, Admiral Sir Tony Radakin went on the BBC today and painted a picture of deteriorating morale in the Russian forces engaged as a result of their units being "decimated" by Ukrainian defenders. He also commented that many of the men whose vehicles are trapped in that 40 mile long convoy are now just living in the woods, having abandoned their gear. He also pointed out that the Russians have lost more men in 10 days than the UK did in 20 years in Afghanistan.
    8. US defense officials report that the Russians now have committed 95% of the 200,0000 troops arrayed against Ukraine. They have fired 600 cruise and ballistic missiles.
    9. Russians are trying to raise their own international brigade composed of Syrians, North Koreans, etc. to fight in Ukraine. Sort of an all-star team of international outlaws and fellow traveler scum.
    10. This Russian POW video is pretty eye opening:
    https://twitter.com/hacking.../statu...65032966062082...
    11. Pentagon sources state the Russians have made no appreciable gains in the last 24 hours.
    12. Ukrainian civilian drone pilots have flocked to help their army. they're using DJI drones to assist in reconnaissance and intelligence gathering, and some of them are also capturing shoot downs, firefights and other combat moments. There are thousands of them apparently in use now.
    More tomorrow.

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  • Mach1
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    Great post

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  • 68RR
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    Morning Update:
    Disclaimer: I'm not a professional intel analyst, I'm not in Europe. I'm just a military historian and writer living in rural Oregon. These are my observations on the most important developments in Ukraine over the weekend.
    1. Russian ground forces spent the day largely trying to consolidate and resupply again. There were no major Russian ground operations around Kyiv, Kharkiv or west of Kherson in the South. Supplying the front line units has been very difficult for the Russians, due to their own logistical deficiencies, but also because the Ukrainians are launching attacks against their resupply columns and blowing bridges in their rear areas.
    2. Russian losses continue to be extremely heavy. In fact, their air losses are unsustainable--they're losing between 7-10 fixed & rotary wing aircraft a day. To date, the Russians have lost about 100 aircraft and drones in less than two weeks of fighting. There is no way for the Russians to quickly replace these losses, nor can they financially sustain them with a defense budget of $120 billion a year. The war is costing Russia well over $20 billion a day, and a Russian analyst for their FSB (Federal Security Service) leaked an assessment which states if the war drags into June, the Russian economy will be destroyed. Additionally, the Russians are losing roughly 1,000 men a day, killed in action, according to Ukrainian estimates. There's a small army of open source analysts in the West who are literally counting wrecked vehicles, identifying their type and geolocating them to pinpoint their GPS coordinates. They're in general agreement that Ukrainian estimates of Russian losses are pretty accurate.
    3. Visa and Mastercard have unilaterally suspended operations in Russia effective last night. The Russian banks are scrambling to tie into alternative payment and credit systems, including a Chinese one, but this will take time and require new cards to be issued apparently. This is a very significant development, as it is an ongoing example of corporate activism that was not factored into the sanctions equation. Other companies pulling their operations include Airbus and Boeing, who have denied access to their on-line manuals and technical support to the Russians now. Public pressure is mounting on McDonalds to suspend operations in Russia.
    4. Earlier this morning PST, eight Russian cruise missiles struck an important airfield in central Ukraine. President Zelensky announced that the attack totally destroyed the facility.
    5. The safe passage corridors negotiated the other day have not worked, as the Russians continue to shell those routes, killing civilians as they flee. The effort to get people out of Mariupol in the South seems to have broken down entirely for the moment. The fact is, the war is turning increasingly brutal and violence toward civilians is increasing. Families are being shot at checkpoints, there are unconfirmed reports of Chechan and Russian troops raping and killing women. The Russians are using area weapons, including a short range, Cold-War era ballistic missile called the SS-21 Scarab (OTR-21 Tochka). The firepower arrayed against Ukraine's key cities is horrific. The Russians used such attacks to try and break the morale and will to resist in previous conflicts, including Syria. So far, it is stiffening resolve in Ukraine, but thousands of civilians have been deliberately targeted and killed.
    6. The Ukrainians have announced they have had 20,000 foreign volunteers sign up to fight in their international brigade. This includes 3,000 Americans.
    7. US Secretary of State Blinken was in Moldova and Poland this weekend. He met with the Ukrainian Sec. of State on the Polish border. Reports indicate that Blinken may be trying to broker a deal that would in fact get those 28 MiG-29s in Poland to Ukraine. Additionally, it was reported at 0630 PST that Blinken and members of the EU are now looking at banning Russian oil imports. This would have a catastrophic effect on the Russian economy, and cause another spike in global oil prices.
    8. There is a report that the Belarussian Deputy Minister of Defense and chief of staff, Major General V. Gulevich has resigned in protest over the decision to send Belarussian troops into Ukraine. Additionally, his alleged resignation letter states that refusal to follow the orders to invade Ukraine has been widespread within the army, so much so that battalion assault groups cannot be formed.
    9. The Russian Military of Defense summoned the Croatian military attache in Moscow to deliver a letter of protest to him over the fact that there are now 200 Croatian nationals fighting in Ukraine as volunteers against the Russians. The Croatian attache refused to even touch the letter and would not accept it.
    10. As I've been typing this, another Russian SU-25 has been reported shot down. Videos are surfacing of Stinger-armed Ukrainians rushing to street corners to fire these missiles at low-flying helicopters and attack aircraft. The Ukrainians have captured several downed aircrew, including one wounded aviator who was photographed with Syrian President Bashar al-Assad when his unit was deployed to the region previously. Of note--that particular Russian aviator was extremely overweight. Of the 300 Russians captured so far, a good many of them appear unfit and very overweight.
    11. The footage emerging of the massive and growing humanitarian crisis in Ukraine is simply heartbreaking--and enraging. These are ordinary, average Europeans who were just living their best lives and have suddenly found their world torn apart. They are fleeing, as their grandparents and great grandparents did, from an absolutely horrific level of violence deliberately leveled against them. They are carrying their cats and dogs with them, a few possessions in a back pack or duffel, and making their way West. Over a million now. In Lvov, at the train station, a young Ukrainian woman sat down at a piano placed outside and played for the waves of men, women and children fleeing the war. The song? She played "What a Wonderful World" as flakes of snow fell, and families with nothing left sought safety in the west.
    Watch that here: https://twitter.com/MichalM.../statu...46901697679363...
    12. Today there are large protests in Russian cities against the war. The bravery it takes to oppose the Putin regime, risk prison and the violence inflicted on them by the Russian riot police is pure national redemption for them. Some video of this is here:
    https://twitter.com/mikegal.../statu...57188774584324...
    https://twitter.com/fbkinfo/status/1500478860236046336...
    https://twitter.com/fbkinfo/status/1500469889064218625...
    For an idea on how fearful the regime is about these demonstrations, take a look at the police (and police dogs) in Moscow: https://twitter.com/JamesAA.../statu...37354154180610...
    So far today, there have been a reported 2,000+ protesters arrested, making almost 11,000 imprisoned since the wa

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  • 68RR
    started a topic Some info from the Ukraine

    Some info from the Ukraine

    My friend John R Bruning is a Writer by profession. He was imbedded with the Grunts in Iraq and Afghanistan. John has been getting some pretty good info from his "friends" he made back then. His posts can easily be found on facebook


    John R Bruning is with Darl Stephenson.
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    Mid-Morning Update:
    My dear friend Darl Stephenson sent me a link to some remarkable information on what has happened to the Russian drive northwest of Kyiv and that massive 40 mile long column of vehicles we've seen images of from sats and drones.
    According to this source, the Ukrainians waited until the Russians had shoved the better part of 3 divisions down a highway through a flood plain. There's at least one tank division in the mix, along with major elements of an airborne division. The estimate is somewhere around 60,000 men with thousands of vehicles.
    When they entered the flood plain, the Ukrainians opened their reservoirs and deluged the area with water. Other reports on line suggest hundreds of Russian soldiers were swept way by the flood. That seems a reach. But, it looks like these vehicles were trapped on that main highway with no way to operate off-road now. Batteries are dying on the vehicles, their tires are Chinese-made and failing. The analysis Darl sent suggests the area around the convoy will be under water or impassible until June.
    If this is true, trapping 60,000 men and thousands of vehicles with a flood has to rank as one of the singular coups in military history.
    Additional support to this: The Russians are sending pretty much anything with wheels to Ukraine. Some photos of a train carrying a mix of old military vehicles and civilian trucks are attached. This would explain why there are scraping the bottom of the barrel. Three mech/armor divisions use massive amounts of fuel, vehicles to transport that fuel, and other supplies as well.
    Darl's link here:
    https://chicagoboyz.net/archives/67331.html...
    Ukraine Thread Part 3 – Day Eight of the Russian Column Held Hostage (by the usual Russian incompetence) – – Chicago Boyz
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