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  • #16
    Vaccines have caused almost every autoimmune condition out there. They are not benign. We have never been able to develop a safe and effective RNA vaccine, yet I’m supposed to believe we have one now? One that is 95% effective and considered safe? Without animal trials?

    No thanks.

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    • #17
      What’s gonna happen is vaccine related deaths will be blamed on Covid by the media and there will be a push for more to get the vaccine.

      Fucking Twilight Zone shit.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by davbrucas View Post
        What’s gonna happen is vaccine related deaths will be blamed on Covid by the media and there will be a push for more to get the vaccine.
        LOL. That's what I was thinking but didn't bother saying it. It would be a win-win for the people who want to control the population count.

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        • #19
          In the mid-1970’s there was a pushed mass vaccination of the public by the Federal government against a swine flu strain, for which it was claimed younger people (college-age and younger) had no known immunity. It was to require a series of three injections, the first of which I was administered at a county hospital. Soon after, a link between the vaccine and Guillian-Barre syndrome, a paralytic condition, was indicated and all further vaccinations ceased. Glad now I never received the other two.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by The King View Post
            In the mid-1970’s there was a pushed mass vaccination of the public by the Federal government against a swine flu strain, for which it was claimed younger people (college-age and younger) had no known immunity. It was to require a series of three injections, the first of which I was administered at a county hospital. Soon after, a link between the vaccine and Guillian-Barre syndrome, a paralytic condition, was indicated and all further vaccinations ceased. Glad now I never received the other two.


            Yep. Another autoimmune disease caused by vaccines.

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            • #21
              This virus is the powers that be's ability to impose the green new deal on everyone. Break it down and really analyze this.

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              • #22
                Regarding vaccines in general, I have gotten the seasonal flu vaccines over the past 20-25 years with no issues, along with Tdap and shingles. I generally follow the recommendations of my PCP on those. With respect to flu, I haven’t had it that I could tell within the past 30-40 years.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by davbrucas View Post
                  Vaccines have caused almost every autoimmune condition out there. They are not benign. We have never been able to develop a safe and effective RNA vaccine, yet I’m supposed to believe we have one now? One that is 95% effective and considered safe? Without animal trials?

                  No thanks.
                  Originally posted by davbrucas View Post
                  What’s gonna happen is vaccine related deaths will be blamed on Covid by the media and there will be a push for more to get the vaccine.

                  Fucking Twilight Zone shit.
                  Originally posted by davbrucas View Post
                  Yep. Another autoimmune disease caused by vaccines.
                  I'm with ya Doc! I'll wait it out until I'm in dire need but until then fuck that shot.

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                  • #24
                    How long until they mandate it for certain things? You know it’s coming, it’s already been highly discussed. In fact I heard Delta was possibly going to require it to fly on their airline.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by davbrucas View Post
                      Yep. Another autoimmune disease caused by vaccines.
                      So someone with Eosinophilic Esophagitis shouldn't get the vaccine?

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                        • #27
                          If they mandate the vaccine, they can go fuck themselves. The government is not telling me to put something in my body. I would consider it differently if this were something that killed 20% of the people that contract it. It isn't and it doesn't rise to the level of mandating that I get some injection that I don't want. If there is something that is required to fly on a plane, a get out of jail free card or whatever, I'll just make a fake one.
                          Originally posted by racrguy
                          What's your beef with NPR, because their listeners are typically more informed than others?
                          Originally posted by racrguy
                          Voting is a constitutional right, overthrowing the government isn't.

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                          • #28
                            Federal, State, and local governments likely won’t be the ones mandating it, employers might though.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by The King View Post
                              Federal, State, and local governments likely won’t be the ones mandating it, employers might though.
                              Mine won't so I'm safe there.
                              Originally posted by racrguy
                              What's your beef with NPR, because their listeners are typically more informed than others?
                              Originally posted by racrguy
                              Voting is a constitutional right, overthrowing the government isn't.

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                              • #30
                                More info on the vaccines.

                                1. The COVID vaccines are mRNA vaccines. mRNA vaccines are a completely new type of vaccine. No mRNA vaccine has ever been licensed for human use before. In essence, we have absolutely no idea what to expect from this vaccine. We have no idea if it will be effective or safe.
                                2. Traditional vaccine simply introduce pieces of a virus to stimulate an immune reaction. The new mRNA vaccine is completely different. It actually injects (transfects) molecules of synthetic genetic material from non-humans sources into our cells. Once in the cells, the genetic material interacts with our transfer RNA (tRNA) to make a foreign protein that supposedly teaches the body to destroy the virus being coded for. Note that these newly created proteins are not regulated by our own DNA, and are thus completely foreign to our cells. What they are fully capable of doing is unknown.
                                3. The mRNA molecule is vulnerable to destruction. So, in order to protect the fragile mRNA strands while they are being inserted into our DNA they are coated with PEGylated lipid nanoparticles. This coating hides the mRNA from our immune system which ordinarily would kill any foreign material injected into the body. PEGylated lipid nanoparticles have been used in several different drugs for years. Because of their effect on immune system balance, several studies have shown them to induce allergies and autoimmune diseases. Additionally, PEGylated lipid nanoparticles have been shown to trigger their own immune reactions, and to cause damage to the liver.
                                4. These new vaccines are additionally contaminated with aluminum, mercury, and possibly formaldehyde. The manufacturers have not yet disclosed what other toxins they contain.
                                5. Since viruses mutate frequently, the chance of any vaccine working for more than a year is unlikely. That is why the flu vaccine changes every year. Last year’s vaccine is no more valuable than last year’s newspaper.
                                6. Absolutely no long term safety studies will have been done to ensure that any of these vaccines don’t cause the cancer, seizures, heart disease, allergies, and autoimmune diseases seen with other vaccines. If you ever wanted to be guinea pig for Big Pharma, now is your golden opportunity.
                                7. Many experts question whether the mRNA technology is ready for prime time. In November 2020, Dr. Peter Jay Hotez said of the new mRNA vaccines, "I worry about innovation at the expense of practicality because they [the mRNA vaccines] are weighted toward technology platforms that have never made it to licensure before." Dr. Hotez is Professor of Pediatrics and Molecular Virology & Microbiology at Baylor College of Medicine, where he is also Director of the Texas Children’s Hospital Center for Vaccine Development.
                                8. Michal Linial, PhD is a Professor of Biochemistry. Because of her research and forecasts on COVID-19, Dr. Linial has been widely quoted in the media. She recently stated, "I won't be taking it [the mRNA vaccine] immediately – probably not for at least the coming year. We have to wait and see whether it really works. We will have a safety profile for only a certain number of months, so if there is a long-term effect after two years, we cannot know."
                                9. In November 2020, The Washington Post reported on hesitancy among healthcare professionals in the United States to the mRNA vaccines, citing surveys which reported that: "some did not want to be in the first round, so they could wait and see if there are potential side effects", and that "doctors and nurses want more data before championing vaccines to end the pandemic".
                                10. Since the death rate from COVID resumed to the normal flu death rate way back in early September, the pandemic has been over since then. Therefore, at this point in time no vaccine is needed. The current scare tactics regarding "escalating cases" is based on a PCR test that because it exceeds 34 amplifications has a 100% false positive rate unless it is performed between the 3rd and 5th day after the first day of symptoms. It is therefor 100% inaccurate in people with no symptoms. This is well established in the scientific literature.
                                11. The other reason you don’t need a vaccine for COVID-19 is that substantial herd immunity has already taken place in the United States. This is the primary reason for the end of the pandemic.
                                12. Unfortunately, you cannot completely trust what you hear from the media. They have consistently got it wrong for the past year. Since they are all supported by Big Pharma and the other entities selling the COVID vaccines, they are not going to be fully forthcoming when it comes to mRNA vaccines. Every statement I have made here is fully backed by published scientific references.
                                13. I would be very interested to see verification that Bill and Melinda Gates with their entire family including grandchildren, Joe Biden and President Trump and their entire families, and Anthony Fauci and his entire family all get the vaccine.
                                14. Anyone who after reading all this still wants to get injected with the mRNA vaccine, should at the very least have their blood checked for COVID-19 antibodies. There is no need for a vaccine in persons already naturally immunized.
                                Here's my bottom line: I would much rather get a COVID infection than get a COVID vaccine. That would be safer and more effective. I have had a number of COVID positive flu cases this year. Some were old and had health concerns. Every single one has done really well with natural therapies including ozone therapy and IV vitamin C.. Just because modern medicine has no effective treatment for viral infections, doesn’t mean that there isn’t one.

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