final vote tally

[ceyko]

I'm getting myself prepared for Harris to rule us.

I think for anyone who voted against Biden, should prepare for this outcome. The media won't report truth and too many people buy into their "facts" wholeheartedly.

Soooo, I also think there is plenty of concern - and regardless these .... investigations should be followed through on, but it's going to be Biden. He knows it, Trump knows it...etc.

I suspect though, that once Trump is out of the white house - these voting conversations are just gonna drop.

[bird_dog0347]

Calling it now... NOTHING will happen. Do I believe there was massive fraud in these areas? I don't know about massive but at least enough of the ones who were willing to carry it out yes (see GA tapes). Do I believe companies like Dominion are corrupt and have an agenda? Yes, but will be impossible to prove on this scale which is what they are counting on.

My current stance? The media, as much as they want to, do not get to have the last say in who wins the presidency... Soooooooo... it's not over yet. That said, I don't really see a path to victory for Trump here as you are innocent until proven guilty which will be tough/impossible to do on this at this scale. Just my thoughts, I'm getting myself prepared for Harris to rule us.

[GhostTX]

^^
Certainly hope SCOTUS picks this up.

Up to 21 states now:

https://nationalfile.com/update-21-states-now-support-texas-scotus-lawsuit-42-of-america-to-sue-8-of-america/

[Broncojohnny]

A Summary of the Texas Election Lawsuit
By Robert Madsen

Texas claims that the presidential elections as held (and as directed by government officials outside the legislature) in Pennsylvania, Georgia, Wisconsin, and Michigan all flagrantly violated their own election laws by materially weakening or doing away with security measures. Further, according to the U.S. Constitution, the legislature (representing the citizens) of each state has absolute authority and responsibility for how presidential electors are chosen; the will of legislature being expressed through state law.

Texas claims that the violations of election law in these states created an environment where ballot fraud was enabled and likely to occur. The lawsuit lists the violations of law in each of the defendant states and provides evidence of fraud (the number of ballots handled unconstitutionally) in each of the states sufficient to change the outcome of the ballot counts.

Pennsylvania

Facts:

Vote Tally: 3,445,548 for Biden and 3,363,951 for Trump - margin 81,597.
Requests for mail-in ballots 70% Democrats and 25% Republicans.
Mail-in ballots increased from 266,208 in 2016 to over 3,000,000 in 2020.

Violations of Election Law:

The Secretary of State unilaterally abrogated signature verification requirements for mail-in ballots.
PA supreme court changed existing deadline for receiving mail-in ballots from 8:00 PM on the day of election to 3 days after the election and adopted a presumption that non-postmarked ballots be considered as valid.
Election officials in Philadelphia and Allegheny Counties did not follow state law permitting poll-watchers to be present for the opening, counting, and recording of mail-in ballots.
The Secretary of State directed election officials to remove ballots before 7:00 AM on the day of election in order to “cure” defective mail-in ballots. This was done only in Democrat majority counties.
Election officials did not segregate ballots received after 8:00 PM on election day breaking the promise made to the U.S. Supreme Court thus making it impossible to identify or remove those ballots.

Evidence of Fraud:

Ballots with no mailed date: 9,005 (no evidence they were sent to a voter)
Ballots returned on or before the mailed date: 58,221
Ballots returned one day after the mailed date: 51,200 (Perhaps not impossible, but highly unlikely for the average voter to receive a ballot, fill it out, place it in the mail and have it returned the next day.)
On Nov 2, the day before the election, PA reports that 2.7 million ballots had been sent out. On Nov 4 that number had increased to 3.1 million -- an increase of 400,000 mail-in ballots at election time with literally no reasonable chance of them being used by legitimate voters.

Georgia

Facts:

Vote Tally: 2,472,098 for Biden and 2,458,121 for Trump - margin 12,670.
Mail-in ballots: 65.32% for Biden and 34.68% for Trump.
Mail-in ballots increased from 213,033 in 2016 to 1,305,659 in 2020.

Violations of Election Law:

The Secretary of State unilaterally abrogated signature verification requirements for mail-in ballots.
The Secretary of State authorized opening and processing mail-in ballots up to three weeks before election day when the law prohibits that until after the polls open on election day.
The Secretary of State materially weakened the security requirements for ballot rejection based on signature verification or other missing information.

Evidence of Fraud:

Mail-in ballot rejection rate for missing or inaccurate information or for non-matching signatures decreased from 6.42% in 2016 to .36% in 2020. Rejecting 2020 ballots at the same rate as 2016 would have resulted in a net gain of 25,587 votes for Trump – twice the number needed to overcome Biden’s count. With a six-fold increase in the number of mail-in ballots, reason would indicate that the rejection rate would increase, or at least stay the same, with so many first-time mail-in ballots.

Michigan

Facts:

Vote Tally: 2,796,702 for Biden and 2,650,695 for Trump - margin 146,007.
In 2016 587,618 voters requested mail-in ballots. In 2020 3.2 million votes were cast by mail-in ballot.
Democrats voted by mail at a rate approximately two times that of Republican voters.

Violations of Election Law:

The Secretary of State unilaterally abrogated signature verification requirements for mail-in ballots.
The Secretary of State sent out unsolicited ballots to all 7.7 million registered voters contrary to election law which requires a voter to request a mail-in ballot through a process that includes a signature to be matched with the voter registration.
The Secretary of State also allowed absentee ballots to be requested online without signature verification.
Local election officials in Wayne County -- containing 322,925 more ballots for Biden than for Trump -- opened and processed mail-in ballots without poll-watchers present.
Local election officials in Wayne County also ignored the strict election law requirements of placing a written statement or stamp on each ballot envelope indicating that the voter signature was in fact checked and verified with the signature on file with the state.

Evidence of Fraud:

174,384 mail-in ballots in Wayne County had no valid registration number, indicating they likely resulted from election workers running the same ballots through the tabulator multiple times.
71% of Wayne County Absent Voter Counting Boards were unbalanced, where the number of people who checked in did not match the number of ballots cast.

Wisconsin

Facts:

Vote Tally: 1,630,716 for Biden and 1,610,151 for Trump - margin 20,565.
Mail-in ballots increased from 146,932 in 2016 to 1,275,019 in 2020.

Violations of Election Law:

The Wisconsin Elections Commission (WEC) positioned hundreds of unmanned illegal drop boxes to collect absentee ballots. (The use of any drop box, manned or unmanned, is directly prohibited by Wisconsin statute. Any alternate mail-in ballot site “shall be staffed by the municipal clerk or the executive director of the board of election commissioners…” “Ballots cast in contravention of the procedures specified in those provisions may not be included in the certified result of any election.”)
The WEC encouraged voters to unlawfully declare themselves “indefinitely confined” in order to avoid security measures like signature verification and photo ID requirements. Nearly 216,000 voters said they were indefinitely confined in the 2020 election, nearly four times as many as in 2016.
Strict laws requiring mail-in voters to certify by signature including the signature of an adult witness were ignored or circumvented by election officials.

Evidence of Fraud:

One hundred thousand ballots were supposedly missing and directed to be “found” after election day.
Conclusion

Significant violations of election law that were put into place to protect against election fraud is sufficient to invalidate the results of the elections, apart from whatever evidence is able to be gathered in a short time to show actual numbers of fraudulent ballots. Reason would indicate that there is a high number of fraudulent ballots that are impossible to identify, which is why the election laws pertaining to mail-in ballots were established to begin with.

There is no remedy to correct the Nov 3rd election because ballots that did not adhere to election law cannot be identified as separate from those that did. An accurate count of legal ballots that were cast cannot be made. Therefore, as directed in the Constitution, it falls to the legislature of each state to choose electors as has been done in the past. Failing that, each state may determine not to submit any presidential electors.

The Texas lawsuit claims the odds of Biden overcoming Trump’s lead and winning any of the states after the point indicated was one in a quadrillion. And therefore, the odds of winning all four was one in a quadrillion to the fourth power. The lawsuit did not provide information on how that number was determined. This may seem an exaggeration to some. It is enough to state that the odds of winning any one of the states was highly unlikely and the odds of winning all four were extremely unlikely. For example, if the odds of winning any one of the states was numerically much less extreme but still highly unlikely, say something like one in twenty, then the odds of doing that in all four states would be 1 in 160,000. Twenty beans in a jar: 19 white and 1 black. Reach in without looking and be lucky enough to pull out the one black bean. Chances of doing that again is 1 in 400. Clearly indicative of cheating if someone claims to have done that four times in a row. As I said the statistical analysis behind the claim of odds of 1 in a 1,000,000,000,000 are not given so I cannot speak to that. But even if the odds were orders of magnitude better than that, they were still astronomically small. At any rate, the merits of the lawsuit do not depend on any certain level of odds of Biden overcoming a lead that had been established by 3:00 A.M. the day after election.



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[GhostTX]

Here is the update just posted to that link,

“UPDATE. I’m not feeling good about this story because of lack of corroboration and some other strangeness.”

Ya...it's now 17 states:

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/missouri-16-other-states-file-brief-supporting-texas-suit-to-delay-presidential-elector-appointment

[Broncojohnny]

Nah man, they are going to get promoted and be the new brown shirts for the USSA.

They only need those during the election.

[4EyedTurd]

I mean, it ain't some sweeps week surprise. Y'all already know the answer.

I think your sarcasm detector 9000 may need a tune up

Tune in at 6 to find out...

Fawk, the suspense is killing me already....

I mean, it ain't some sweeps week surprise. Y'all already know the answer.

[Strychnine]

Talisman and most lefties lie, bend words (then call it nuance), and then there are people like you that preach tolerance for it.

There's nothing wrong with nuance. In fact, I'd say the lack of nuance is exactly what's wrong with politics (and most of the world) today. Soundbites and two-sentence posts are not the solution. You can't Twitter-win your way to a solution. The fact that you're against nuance implies that you're against actual discussion and just want to "stand your ground." That's fine, own it, but it's not the way to fix things.

[BP]

Biden's secretary of defense is going to be a guy who armed the militants in Syria before they defected to ISIS.

Armed and trained, then was criticized by John McCain over it. He probably learned a lot about government though while on the boards of Raytheon, Nucor and Tenet after he retired from the Army.

Maybe we'll get lucky and he'll be the opposite of Mattis.

[4EyedTurd]

Fawk, the suspense is killing me already....

[Tx Redneck]

We were talking about this long before any rulings yesterday, and I haven't said anything about that case. Do not conflate things.

Yes, 30 cases being withdrawn, dismissed, or ruled against those asserting fraud have taken place. And no, most of them have not been sent to other courts and are not being appealed because there is a near total lack of evidence. Even if I pretended it was true that they were being appealed, it doesn't change the core statement that 30 lawsuits have gone bye-bye, many dismissed with prejudice, or given a dispositive ruling.



I may be prone to hyperbole on occasion (usually at my own expense), but I do not have the reputation of a liar on here. You also have a reputation on here. Want to know what it is?

Tune in at 6 to find out...

So Trump hasn’t filed 30 cases, but he has somehow lost 30 by your count. And like the fake news you are actually wrong. They haven’t been dismissed. Most of them have just been sent on to other courts. The SC dismissed an emergency relief request today but people like you and the fake news are claiming it’s the whole case. The case was actually docketed and will be heard.

We were talking about this long before any rulings yesterday, and I haven't said anything about that case. Do not conflate things.

Yes, 30 cases being withdrawn, dismissed, or ruled against those asserting fraud have taken place. And no, most of them have not been sent to other courts and are not being appealed because there is a near total lack of evidence. Even if I pretended it was true that they were being appealed, it doesn't change the core statement that 30 lawsuits have gone bye-bye, many dismissed with prejudice, or given a dispositive ruling.

There is no point in arguing with an idiot. They just drag you down to their level and beat you with experience. Talisman and most lefties lie, bend words (then call it nuance), and then there are people like you that preach tolerance for it. No one is entitled to anything, for the record. Do you think you’re entitoed to someone being nice if you lie to them?

I may be prone to hyperbole on occasion (usually at my own expense), but I do not have the reputation of a liar on here. You also have a reputation on here. Want to know what it is?

[AnthonyS]

You seem pretty angry, and not actually willing to really discuss anything... that is to say you seem much more comfortable talking at people rather than with them.
Are you just having a bad day[s], or do you really think you're entitled to some bully pulpit and are justified in being an asshole?

There is no point in arguing with an idiot. They just drag you down to their level and beat you with experience. Talisman and most lefties lie, bend words (then call it nuance), and then there are people like you that preach tolerance for it. No one is entitled to anything, for the record. Do you think you’re entitoed to someone being nice if you lie to them?

[AnthonyS]

That is the dumbest thing you've said yet.

Oh we can get to the case list, but the problem is that it deals with nuance; which isn't something you're gifted at determining. You were actually partially correct in your assertion that there aren't 30 Trump vs cases. But I wasn't talking about his name being on the case, I was talking about lawsuits related to election fraud, filed after the conclusion of the election. Over 30 of which have been dismissed or withdrawn. Now that you hopefully clearly understand what I am talking about, do you still dispute it?

So Trump hasn’t filed 30 cases, but he has somehow lost 30 by your count. And like the fake news you are actually wrong. They haven’t been dismissed. Most of them have just been sent on to other courts. The SC dismissed an emergency relief request today but people like you and the fake news are claiming it’s the whole case. The case was actually docketed and will be heard.