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You didn’t. It was just the appearance based on arguing against the obvious election fraud committed by democrats.
We are very similar in our views other than I’m not left leaning on much except some social issues like abortion.

If it is so obvious there should be plenty of evidence. As it sits, Republicans have brought jack shit to the judiciary table. Have you read the rulings? At the end of the day, the electorate choses the President anyway. Hillary won the popular vote by nearly 3 million people; didn't turn out so great for her.

[Trip McNeely]

My favorite part of that whole CNBC article is where Nancy Pelosi claims that someone else is imperiling democracy. That's positively comical.

I didn't figure much would come of the lawsuit because the stakes were too high.

I can guarantee one thing that will come of it though, and this is the real bad part for our country as a whole, in the next election the Republicans are going to cheat just as bad as the Democrats do. Whether it is through redistricting or whatever else. It will be game on. If all that matters is who gets the most votes and no one will even have a trial when the other party tries to challenge it then obviously anything goes.

Even though now that they will be back in power they will restructure, change the rules, do whatever they can to prevent anything like that. Republicans will get caught as well, trial-no trial and be prosecuted and probably put to Death as the Democrats would advocate for the death penalty in this case. I have a hard time believing if we don’t keep the Senate that this country will ever be the same, even then it will only last for 2 years before we’re fucked again. The cycle will continue until it’s total submission for the liberal agenda.

[davbrucas]

That's that on the Texas lawsuit.



"Supreme Court denies effort to block election results in 4 key states that sealed Trump's fate."



Anthony will probably be in here at any minute to say it didn't happen.







Where have I taken a political stance in here? Look back and I don't think you'll find that I have, though this thread has gone on long enough that maybe I've forgotten a post or two. I've been debunking misinformation, as it happens mostly from ultra right wing conservative cultists.



Political labels are generally unhelpful unless a person views politics as a sport, but I am at best, if a label had to be applied rather than simply looking at things issue by issue, a left leaning libertarian.



I believe people should have the maximum amount of freedom in their personal lives so long as they do not cause DIRECT harm to others, and that the corporate side of libertarianism leans too hard right, because we aren't operating in a true capitalist society due to the corporate hijacking of our political system. I don't think corporations are people or should be treated as such, at least not as our system operates now.

You didn’t. It was just the appearance based on arguing against the obvious election fraud committed by democrats.
We are very similar in our views other than I’m not left leaning on much except some social issues like abortion.

[Broncojohnny]

My favorite part of that whole CNBC article is where Nancy Pelosi claims that someone else is imperiling democracy. That's positively comical.

I didn't figure much would come of the lawsuit because the stakes were too high.

I can guarantee one thing that will come of it though, and this is the real bad part for our country as a whole, in the next election the Republicans are going to cheat just as bad as the Democrats do. Whether it is through redistricting or whatever else. It will be game on. If all that matters is who gets the most votes and no one will even have a trial when the other party tries to challenge it then obviously anything goes.

That's that on the Texas lawsuit.

"Supreme Court denies effort to block election results in 4 key states that sealed Trump's fate."

Anthony will probably be in here at any minute to say it didn't happen.

Eric, honest question...
On which part of the political spectrum do your beliefs align? I can understand not liking Donald Trump, but is that enough to vote against him when the alternative is quite unpalatable to most of us?
I’m assuming you’re taking the opposite stance in here for debate purposes (and making people look like idiots) and not that you support the democrat agenda? I’ve known you (on here) for 20yrs and I’d be shocked if you came out as a liberal.

Where have I taken a political stance in here? Look back and I don't think you'll find that I have, though this thread has gone on long enough that maybe I've forgotten a post or two. I've been debunking misinformation, as it happens mostly from ultra right wing conservative cultists.

Political labels are generally unhelpful unless a person views politics as a sport, but I am at best, if a label had to be applied rather than simply looking at things issue by issue, a left leaning libertarian.

I believe people should have the maximum amount of freedom in their personal lives so long as they do not cause DIRECT harm to others, and that the corporate side of libertarianism leans too hard right, because we aren't operating in a true capitalist society due to the corporate hijacking of our political system. I don't think corporations are people or should be treated as such, at least not as our system operates now.

[Big A]

Texas' suit has been rejected.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/11/us/politics/supreme-court-election-texas.html?fbclid=IwAR2f1oGb59g5QdAON7do-pYGeIl51Nj5n1L8gqa2cN4QrMzwKyOiOZeN1Cc

[davbrucas]

Eric, honest question...
On which part of the political spectrum do your beliefs align? I can understand not liking Donald Trump, but is that enough to vote against him when the alternative is quite unpalatable to most of us?
I’m assuming you’re taking the opposite stance in here for debate purposes (and making people look like idiots) and not that you support the democrat agenda? I’ve known you (on here) for 20yrs and I’d be shocked if you came out as a liberal.

[juiceweezl]

Well I think the goal is to throw out those contested states so neither candidate gets 270, in which case it becomes a contingent election. Meaning the house picks the president and the senate the VP.

Honestly I'd be happy with that outcome. Biden will be inaugurated with Pence as his VP. Leftists get the old white guy they wanted whose not Trump and California gets to keep their almost full blown socialist senator.

Then we can start talking about that 25th amendment again.

You're close but not exactly right. Each state gets a vote, not each Representative. 50 votes for POTUS in play if that's the case. Trump would likely remain POTUS with Race Bannon as VP.

[BP]

it will go 12th amendment . each state gets 1 vote . that is easier than overturning state elections .

Well I think the goal is to throw out those contested states so neither candidate gets 270, in which case it becomes a contingent election. Meaning the house picks the president and the senate the VP.

Honestly I'd be happy with that outcome. Biden will be inaugurated with Pence as his VP. Leftists get the old white guy they wanted whose not Trump and California gets to keep their almost full blown socialist senator.

Then we can start talking about that 25th amendment again.

[bubbaearl]

it will go 12th amendment . each state gets 1 vote . that is easier than overturning state elections .

[BP]

So I'm not an authority on constitutional law but if if the SC decides a secretary of state certified an election that was fraudulent would that state's legislature then decide on who gets the electoral votes? PA, WI and MI all have democrat governors but republicans have the majority in their houses and senate. Arizona has a trifecta currently so it's even more surprising.

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Part 2

When*nearly half*of America's voters believe that the fix was in to steal victory from President Trump, you don't have a conspiracy theory.**You have something approaching a general consensus.

So here we are in an American stalemate.**Democrat governors and secretaries of state know they*ignored their states' election laws*in order to create so much mail-in ballot chaos that nobody knows which votes are real and which votes were cast by paid political operatives.**Establishment Republicans only too eager to get back to the pre-Trump status quo of cheap*Chinese*manufacturing,*H-1B visa green cards*for foreign workers, and endless*illegal immigration*labor are willing to play dumb and act as if it were completely normal for an incumbent president to break*voting records*and win almost all*bellwether counties*in the country by an average of sixteen points but still somehow come up short of overall victory.**And the Establishment Club that transcends party membership is looking at the American people with one eyebrow raised and wondering whether it'll be allowed to get away with it.**

In poker parlance, the D.C. crowd is bluffing that Joe Biden won the 2020 election, and it's daring the American people to call it out.**It's a dangerous gamble.**If these people get away with it, there's really nothing holding them back from here on out.**If they can institute a system where the importance of the voter disappears and the only question is whether battleground state officials are corrupt enough to certify fraudulent election totals, then those darned rubes who value their individual rights cease to matter at all.**But if enough Americans call their bluff, well, then the D.C. corruptocrats lose everything.

If there were ever a political equivalent of*7-2 pocket cards, Joe Biden is it.**It's time to push our chips in and see what happens.



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The District of Corruption Has Overplayed Its Hand

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This is just an observation (because I'm not looking forward to gulag life), but I think the only thing keeping Trump voters from burning the whole corrupt system down right now is that nobody knows whom or what to attack.**That should be a pretty sobering consideration for an establishment class that thinks it just stole the 2020 presidential election fair and square.**If there were a ship out in the harbor loaded up with all the Democrats' fraudulent ballots from the election, there's no doubt in my mind that a hundred million Americans would dress up as members of the Washington Football Club and sink that ship to the bottom of the sea.**If the politicians and journalists who call the District of Corruption home were wearing bright red coats, I suspect they'd find themselves tossed to the curb head-first by every small business–owner going belly-up right now due to political whims disguised as public health orders.**If there were a field of battle to defend or clearly demarcated enemy zones on the map, I'm guessing the powder keg ignited from mail-in ballot fraud this election cycle would have already gone*boom!**

The truth is that Americans are mad, and they should be.**They have put up with four years of fake Russian collusion hoaxes and fake impeachments and fake judges using their powers to*hamstring*lawful executive orders from President Trump.**They have watched the CIA abuse its powers*to spy*on a Republican political campaign and the FBI abuse its powers*to punish*political allies of the president, and the only person facing any semblance of justice in the whole mess is some no-name*young lawyer*from deep in the bowels of the Deep State's operations against Trump who lacked the judgment to understand that his own side would use him as a scapegoat.**Police officers have been totally thrown*under the bus*so that lawless Democrat mayors and district attorneys could send armies of Antifa thugs into the streets this election year as a show of strength.**Old and young veterans have been watching elected officials tear up the Constitution they took*oaths to defend, and if fighting broke out tomorrow, I think 90% of those former soldiers would be at the front lines the day after next.**

We have a tinderbox right now, and about the only miracle saving the Establishment Club in D.C. from the impending inferno is that the Americans most fired up to tear the whole thing down are the same Americans who have spent their lives respecting the rule of law and American institutions.**Drink that irony in!**The men and women in D.C. who see themselves as part of the "permanent government" have abused their powers to take down a sitting president, Establishment Club Republicans have looked the other way as Democrats used the cover of a pandemic to justify the dumping of unaccounted mail-in ballots across battleground states to overturn an otherwise likely Trump victory, and the only thing keeping Trump voters from destroying the whole corrupt system is their own self-restraint.**As soon as enough of them decide that a two-tiered justice system that protects leftist agitators while persecuting the MAGA crowd is unacceptable or that a rigged election system that magically lifts establishment candidates to victory is illegitimate, then the whole house of cards comes crashing down.**

Outside D.C., Americans have common sense, and their common sense tells them that the 2020 election for president was a sham.**By hook or by crook, and without changing current election laws through the*state legislatures, Democrats transformed the 2020 election into a contest of which side could manufacture more fraudulent mail-in ballots.**Since only the Democrats were manufacturing ballots, they won by default, but only after working well past double overtime to overcome the historic turnout for Donald Trump's re-election.**Can you imagine how surprised those cheaters must have been when they realized in the hours after the polls closed that they'd have to double up their cheating efforts just to match the real voters who showed up for the president?**Trump voters were so aware that they'd have to prevail over a "margin of fraud" that they turned out in numbers that shocked everybody.**And instead of noting the huge surge in voters for the president, the Democrat press simply ignored it completely.**Even Joe Biden can't believe how many votes Joe Biden received in order to eke a win past the incumbent president's historic election night.*



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[bird_dog0347]

The me that is fed up with the corrupt system keeps saying nothing will happen. The me that sees the law as the lady with the blindfold and scales sees this as an open and shut case. The law changed without legislation. That shouldn't fly. I have no idea what the outcome will be, and I suspect Biden (and later Harris) will be President. I hope they throw it out and make those states revote in person. Either way, I expect shit to burn. Be ready.

That's the thing... nothing will "burn" because the people on the shit end of the stick aren't the type to go looting/rioting/burning shit down. Thus, nothing will happen other than more freedoms being striped away one at a time.

[juiceweezl]

Calling it now... NOTHING will happen. Do I believe there was massive fraud in these areas? I don't know about massive but at least enough of the ones who were willing to carry it out yes (see GA tapes). Do I believe companies like Dominion are corrupt and have an agenda? Yes, but will be impossible to prove on this scale which is what they are counting on.

My current stance? The media, as much as they want to, do not get to have the last say in who wins the presidency... Soooooooo... it's not over yet. That said, I don't really see a path to victory for Trump here as you are innocent until proven guilty which will be tough/impossible to do on this at this scale. Just my thoughts, I'm getting myself prepared for Harris to rule us.

The me that is fed up with the corrupt system keeps saying nothing will happen. The me that sees the law as the lady with the blindfold and scales sees this as an open and shut case. The law changed without legislation. That shouldn't fly. I have no idea what the outcome will be, and I suspect Biden (and later Harris) will be President. I hope they throw it out and make those states revote in person. Either way, I expect shit to burn. Be ready.