U.S Break Up... Call It Now...

[juiceweezl]

the key to our survival is the border and immigration . if this can be turned around we have a bright future. if not we will be the middle east. perpetual war with muslims . but i do see mass immigration from Europe in the future . they have moved past the tipping point and many will opt to come here to escape the shit hole it has become. if we can have mass deportations here we will get it back under control. and anyone who still thinks mexicans are the problem just aint paying attention. one look at Minnesota tells the tale .

We're not going to have mass deportations. I don't buy that we will for one second. If you want it under control, you treat it just like anything else -- with money. The reason people come here illegally (not terrorists) is money. They can make more of it here by a long shot, so it's worth whatever risk they take. If you take away the money aspect of it, take away the "reward" side of things, they will stop coming. It's that simple. Begin the crackdown on those using illegal immigrants as hired help. Hit it with serious fines, jail time, etc. Hell, revoke citizenship of those using illegal immigrants as workers. The problem with right itself very quickly.

[Gasser64]

Part of the problem is these snowflakes getting older. I know I sound like my parents, but damn, these kids are stupid. The have absolutely NO communication skills. Its all about instant gratification and me me me. They're such a pain in the ass when they dont get their way and its always someone else fault.

There is a positive way to think about that too. As winston churchhill seemed to know:

As many libs age, they gain life experience and tend to flip sides and become conservative. Life beating on you the way life does, tends to make that happen. So there will be a significant portion of the ones you're referring to, that will switch sides because they simply weren't stupid enough to cling to the regressive side as they got older and actually learned a thing or two about the real world. It happens a lot. We know it today as "red pilled" but its a very old phenomenon.

[ceyko]

There is a positive way to think about that too. As winston churchhill seemed to know:

As many libs age, they gain life experience and tend to flip sides and become conservative. Life beating on you the way life does, tends to make that happen. So there will be a significant portion of the ones you're referring to, that will switch sides because they simply weren't stupid enough to cling to the regressive side as they got older and actually learned a thing or two about the real world. It happens a lot. We know it today as "red pilled" but its a very old phenomenon.

How does that one saying go....something like if you're under 30 and not a liberal you're heartless, if you over 30 and not conservative you're stupid.

[Jimbo]

How does that one saying go....something like if you're under 30 and not a liberal you have no heart, if you over 30 and not conservative you have no brain.

The problem is, that doesn't happen naturally if you modify a society to pander to and reward pansy bullshit while simultaneously punishing the act of exercising personal freedoms and honesty.

[bubbaearl]

We're not going to have mass deportations. I don't buy that we will for one second. If you want it under control, you treat it just like anything else -- with money. The reason people come here illegally (not terrorists) is money. They can make more of it here by a long shot, so it's worth whatever risk they take. If you take away the money aspect of it, take away the "reward" side of things, they will stop coming. It's that simple. Begin the crackdown on those using illegal immigrants as hired help. Hit it with serious fines, jail time, etc. Hell, revoke citizenship of those using illegal immigrants as workers. The problem with right itself very quickly.

the min you start deporting most will run home. it's worked before. and yes e-verify is a must. starting with construction fields . seasonal farm work is not a big problem. boot them from welfare and entitlements and they will go back.
this is not the demorats buying votes. it is the party taken over by socialism and is the most dangerous threat we face.

[Broncojohnny]

The problem is, that doesn't happen naturally if you modify a society to pander to and reward pansy bullshit while simultaneously punishing the act of exercising personal freedoms and honesty.

This is exactly correct.

I think there is only one real possibility for another civil war in this country and it revolves around the repeal of the second amendment. The libs are going to attempt to elect more and more radical politicians as time goes by and the media is going to give them the cover they need to pull it off. They will eventually try to repeal the second amendment. Confiscation of guns will be a bloodbath.

[Strychnine]

There is a story, often told, that upon exiting the Constitutional Convention Benjamin Franklin was approached by a group of citizens asking what sort of government the delegates had created. His answer was: "A republic, if you can keep it."

People should read this

[EW]

We MUST be able to cut off liberal vote buying with entitlement programs and unlimited immigration or we will be overrun.

[Rick Modena]

We MUST be able to cut off liberal vote buying with entitlement programs and unlimited immigration or we will be overrun.

The main reason illegals come here is because they can get free healthcare, aside from the better paying jobs too.
IIRC the government entities are going after employers and that's the only way. Start hitting business's with heavy fines for hiring non-citizens and they will not come here if they can't work.

[Sean88gt]

It won't happen. If it were to get close, it would be horribly violent, because the military would begin a process of ridding us of the ones that seek to split the country.

I don't understand the idea of a breakup vs just moving on. If you don't like it, cradle the bottom of a bus headed for Mexico.

[Gasser64]

We MUST be able to cut off liberal vote buying with entitlement programs and unlimited immigration or we will be overrun.

If we do, it could go full reverse. If we can cut off the democraps ability to cheat, they are fucked with a capital F. We've seen how well they win when they can't cheat. As a general rule, they don't. We kill the cheating, we kill the democrats.

There are lots of items like this on the agenda. Need to start checking them off. I'm confident that we're finally waking up to the threat though. Not getting complacent, but it seems to be happening. Notice we elected trump the destroyer, instead of another good ol boy faggot. Death to the good ol boys. Meet a bad end, soon.

As for deportation, doesn't have to be "mass" deportation. It can be slow deportation, over 10 years. Get the wall up, make businesses of any kind suffer horribly for employing them, and slowly deport them all over the course of 10 years. Sort of a sneaky, underhanded, out of sight out of mind deportation of all of them.