Global warmed up: Study finds temperature data systematically fudged upward

[bubbaearl]

do some research on volcanic eruptions. they dump more shit into the air than all of mankind. they have influenced the weather since the beginning of time. but al gore couldn't make money from them. this whole thing is a money scam.

[AnthonyS]

do some research on volcanic eruptions. they dump more shit into the air than all of mankind. they have influenced the weather since the beginning of time. but al gore couldn't make money from them. this whole thing is a money scam.

Exactly. 40 yrs ago man was going to cause an ice age. Only govt regulation could save us. Now man is going to cause a global meltdown and only govt regulation can save us.... trump was right to tell them to shove the Paris accord. It would only continue to hurt the us economy via over regulation.

Environmental trends on Earth have changed over hundreds of thousands, even millions of years. No one can say what it's going to be like in 10,000 years based on just over 100 years of data much of which is inaccurate or even fake.

Might as well be honest a lot of this is fake science.

[Strychnine]

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-g20-climatechange-turkey-idUSKBN19T11R

Erdogan says U.S. stance stalls Turkish ratification of Paris climate deal

The U.S. decision to pull out of the Paris climate agreement means Turkey is less inclined to ratify the deal because the U.S. move jeopardizes compensation promised to developing countries, President Tayyip Erdogan said on Saturday.

Erdogan was speaking at the G20 summit in Germany where leaders from the world's leading economies broke with U.S. President Donald Trump over climate policy, following his announcement last month that he was withdrawing from the accord.

Erdogan said that when Turkey signed the accord France had promised that Turkey would be eligible for compensation for some of the financial costs of compliance.

"So we said if this would happen, the agreement would pass through parliament. But otherwise it won't pass," Erdogan told a news conference, adding that parliament had not yet approved it.

"Therefore, after this step taken by the United States, our position steers a course towards not passing this from the parliament," he said.

So France promised Turkey some US money, Trump said, "Eat shit," and suddenly "climate" isn't the biggest driver... hmmmm...

[Strychnine]

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-g20-climatechange-turkey-idUSKBN19T11R

Erdogan says U.S. stance stalls Turkish ratification of Paris climate deal

The U.S. decision to pull out of the Paris climate agreement means Turkey is less inclined to ratify the deal because the U.S. move jeopardizes compensation promised to developing countries, President Tayyip Erdogan said on Saturday.

Erdogan was speaking at the G20 summit in Germany where leaders from the world's leading economies broke with U.S. President Donald Trump over climate policy, following his announcement last month that he was withdrawing from the accord.

Erdogan said that when Turkey signed the accord France had promised that Turkey would be eligible for compensation for some of the financial costs of compliance.

"So we said if this would happen, the agreement would pass through parliament. But otherwise it won't pass," Erdogan told a news conference, adding that parliament had not yet approved it.

"Therefore, after this step taken by the United States, our position steers a course towards not passing this from the parliament," he said.

So France promised Turkey some US money, Trump said, "Eat shit," and suddenly "climate" isn't the biggest driver... hmmmm...

[46Tbird]

How are you supposed to get billions of dollars in funding if your graphs don't show dire scenarios and consequences?

If your graphs show that centuries of human activity have little or no measurable impact on the climate, then that's not useful for people hoping to make a buck off of alarmist proclamations. They'll just find another scientist with a bigger hockey stick for their data, thanks very much.

[AnthonyS]

Does anybody me actually think temperature measurements over 100 years ago are as accurate as today? 50 years? 3 even 25 years? Look how much autos have changed and aircraft in the last 100 years. The data itself without distortion is already highly suspect.

[svauto-erotic855]

Does anybody me actually think temperature measurements over 100 years ago are as accurate as today? 50 years? 3 even 25 years? Look how much autos have changed and aircraft in the last 100 years. The data itself without distortion is already highly suspect.

Body temp data that established that normal body temp is 98.6 has been found to be flawed also. They found the original thermometer is a museum from that study and tested it recently and it was not accurate; considering that it was considered a lab grade instrument in its era I would consider all of the data concerning any temps from back then to be flawed.

[AnthonyS]

Body temp data that established that normal body temp is 98.6 has been found to be flawed also. They found the original thermometer is a museum from that study and tested it recently and it was not accurate; considering that it was considered a lab grade instrument in its era I would consider all of the data concerning any temps from back then to be flawed.

SCIENCE!!!!! Now start recording temperatures today using wet / dry bulb in the shade and thermocouples and in one thousand years after enough data is gathered, then we can discuss the coming meltdown or ice age.

[BLAKE]

I trust the religious right on this subject about as much as I trust that dildo Al Gore.

this whole thing is a money scam.

Occam's razor right there. Makes the most sense.

[GhostTX]

Exactly. 40 yrs ago man was going to cause an ice age. Only govt regulation could save us. Now man is going to cause a global meltdown and only govt regulation can save us.... trump was right to tell them to shove the Paris accord. It would only continue to hurt the us economy via over regulation.

Environmental trends on Earth have changed over hundreds of thousands, even millions of years. No one can say what it's going to be like in 10,000 years based on just over 100 years of data much of which is inaccurate or even fake.

Might as well be honest a lot of this is fake science.

Paris accord was joke. The ultimate money redistribution. You have to wonder why the 2 biggest polluters (China and India) were void from paying anything nor having to clean up anything until 2030.

[Forever_frost]

Paris accord was joke. The ultimate money redistribution. You have to wonder why the 2 biggest polluters (China and India) were void from paying anything nor having to clean up anything until 2030.

And listed as developing nations eligible to receive money from the fund which we'd have to borrow from China in order to give to China.

[Broncojohnny]

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-g...-idUSKBN19T11R





So France promised Turkey some US money, Trump said, "Eat shit," and suddenly "climate" isn't the biggest driver... hmmmm...

It is crazy, it is almost like people will say or do anything for free money.

[Gasser64]

So France promised Turkey some US money...

I think its a fucking greek tragedy that ANY other country ever got a single cent of our money. I'd be going after them to pay it all back. Think how much lower our taxes could be if we never gave away any money. Any politician that just wants to give away taxpayer dollars because he's feeling benevolent, should be hanged in public shortly after even making the suggestion.

[svauto-erotic855]

I think its a fucking greek tragedy that ANY other country ever got a single cent of our money. I'd be going after them to pay it all back. Think how much lower our taxes could be if we never gave away any money. Any politician that just wants to give away taxpayer dollars because he's feeling benevolent, should be hanged in public shortly after even making the suggestion.

2 out of 3 dollars that the federal government spends is on welfare and the percentage grows daily.

The Paris Climate Treaty (It is called a treaty everywhere in the world except the USA) had a price tag to the US tax payer of 12 Trillion dollars according to the UN that was supposed to administer the fund.

[AnthonyS]

Maybe the conspiracy theorists are onto something.... 12 trillion more in debt is just that much closer to destroying the USA , which is what the globalists want. The USA falls and Poland or any other country willing to stand up for themselves would crumble too.