Anyone else laughing their ass off?

[mardyn]

40 to 50 million actual illegals (not the 11 million as advertised by the media) in the US with 10-13% admitting that they voted?

I'd say it's well within the margin of error that Trump is right.

It's past time for some kinda' National Electronic Voter ID system to be applied here.

mardyn

[Gasser64]

No. No. No. Rethink this national i.d. This is a dirty trick. Get the Fed out of our business. Limited federal government is not happening with creating more bureaucratic entities. This is a serious threat to privacy and thus freedom....it is akin to a list of people's names who own guns. More laws about how you must carry said extra stealable identity. Texas i.ds are legit. Think of it like how PayPal is another layer of protection for your credit card.

They don't have to know anything else about you. Got a SS number already? Then you can vote. And they're the government, they know what your SS number is. Swipe card, system checks SS database, you're good to go. If not, you don't vote. Not the only thing that could work though. Every state having to have them would also be fine.

All that has to be done is allow states to pass voter ID laws like many states already wanted to do. Then states like CA can just expect to have audits of elections since they won't do it. Problem solved. No state law = monitors in any fed election.

I like this idea, just want to make sure its on the up and up when it comes to enforcement.

[KBScobravert]

Throw out electoral votes from states with voter fraud in excess of clerical error allowances.

Such as for every 100,000 illegal votes an audit finds, the state is dinging electoral votes.

If you want all your state's votes to count, you will back the voter ID laws.

[Grimpala]

[QUOTE=Gasser64;1622247]They don't have to know anything else about you. Got a SS number already? Then you can vote. And they're the government, they know what your SS number is. Swipe card, system checks SS database, you're good to go. If not, you don't vote. Not the only thing that could work though. Every state having to have them would also be fine.
[QUOTE]

I can't count the number of illegal immigrants I've worked with in the past that had SS numbers. How is your plan of swiping an SS card to verify status going to work?

Without a valid/verified/verifiable picture I.D. it's all moot.

[Chas_svo]

[quote=Grimpala;1622263][QUOTE=Gasser64;1622247]They don't have to know anything else about you. Got a SS number already? Then you can vote. And they're the government, they know what your SS number is. Swipe card, system checks SS database, you're good to go. If not, you don't vote. Not the only thing that could work though. Every state having to have them would also be fine.

I can't count the number of illegal immigrants I've worked with in the past that had SS numbers. How is your plan of swiping an SS card to verify status going to work?

Without a valid/verified/verifiable picture I.D. it's all moot.

I've known many with "good" fake SSNs.

[Gargamel]

I've known many with "good" fake SSNs.

Well at least we know that it's impossible to fake a Hawaiian birth certificate...

[Gasser64]

[quote=Grimpala;1622263][QUOTE=Gasser64;1622247]They don't have to know anything else about you. Got a SS number already? Then you can vote. And they're the government, they know what your SS number is. Swipe card, system checks SS database, you're good to go. If not, you don't vote. Not the only thing that could work though. Every state having to have them would also be fine.

I can't count the number of illegal immigrants I've worked with in the past that had SS numbers. How is your plan of swiping an SS card to verify status going to work?

Without a valid/verified/verifiable picture I.D. it's all moot.

You're both right... right now it wouldn't work for shit. Not after a few keystrokes were made however. If they tell the computer to check the age and verify if the person is dead, well, its over. It also checks for current status in the event that they're still alive. Oh they're on disability? Fake.

How does a background check work? Do you have faith in that system? Do you think it keeps felons from buying guns at the gunstore? Do you think it keeps guns out of the hands of a lot of convicted felons? Why then, don't you think that the same thing could be set up for voters? Also, retinal scans exist. Fingerprint scans exist. All manner of deterrents exist. Take your pick. They could do it in a day or two. They simply haven't yet. Hopefully though, soon they will.

[Fastback]

FOR RELEASE:
October 15, 1999

Dick Armey Salutes Ron Paul
Says "good riddance" to the National ID

WASHINGTON, DC -- House majority leader Dick Armey (R, TX) on Thursday offered his congratulations to US Rep. Ron Paul for his leadership in passing legislation to stop a National ID from taking effect next year.

"This is a classic victory of freedom over "Big Brother." Because we acted quickly, no American will have to carry a National ID Card," Rep. Armey said in a statement Thursday. Last week, the House of Representatives passed the Transportation Appropriation for the fiscal year 2000. The measure included the repeal of a 1996 law which would have created a national ID, requiring that after Oct. 1, 1999, no American without such an ID would be allowed to board an airplane, purchase a handgun, receive federal benefits or get a job.

"A national driver's license with 'biometric identifiers' or social security numbers is more suited to a police state than to a free country. It took three years of hard work, but we finally laid this disturbing idea to rest. I especially want to salute Reps. Frank Wolf (R-VA), Ron Paul (R-TX), and Bob Barr (R-GA.) and Sen. Richard Shelby (R-AL) for their leadership on this issue."

Rep. Paul said he was grateful for the support he had been shown during the process by his colleague, Rep. Armey.

"While this is a great victory, we still have much to do to protect the privacy of Americans," said Rep. Paul. "I look forward to working with Mr. Armey as we continue to defend liberty and the principles of constitutional government."

Rep. Armey said he joined other Americans in saying "good riddance to the National ID Card."

https://www.gunowners.org/fs9816.htm

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