Should people on a terror/ no fly list be prevented from buying guns?

[KBScobravert]

This topic came up at breakfast this morning with the guys. The conversation was about the company we work for and getting Petty Cash disbursements before deploying. Our Site Leads will take a $10-20K disbursement every time they return from R&R. The bank has to report it to the IRS. Even though we are taking a company check, to the companies bank and cashing it, it still gets reported against us to the IRS (yes, why don't they just lower the amounts and go to multiple banks? because lazy that's why).

So to the point. The gal that works in the office that helps handle a lot of this shit will a lot of times go to the bank with the employee. She found herself on the "No-Fly List" for suspected money laundering. All because a bank teller said "this looks like money laundering, we have to report it as such" and the bank manager agreed. Next thing she knows she can't fly. Took 6 months to get it cleared up.

So, no. Without due process they government should not be able to restrict rights.

[LANTIRN]

No. There is no due process with that list, it isn't public, and there isn't even a confirmed public proceedure to remove yourself. Ted Kennedy was on it and it took him 6 months to get off it. I think there was another Senator or Congressman on there, and they can put you on it for anything. Also the only way to know if you are on it is to try to fly, which means you bought tickets and are probably on vacation which is now ruined because you can't get there. Hell, the no fly list should not even exist. Want to prevent someone from traveling because of shit they are doing? Gather evidence and arrest them and take them to trial. Other than that fuck off.

And also no for the fbi watch list. The reason you are on that is because they suspect you of something and are looking into it, but do not have enough evidence usually to even open an official investigation let alone arrest and convict you, which is exactly what happened with the Orlando shooter. They watched him a bit, interviewed him, and then stopped because there wasn't any evidence of wrongdoing (supposedly). I think they fucked up in that case, but considering all that has to happen to get you on that list is the false report from a pissed ex girlfriend or neighbor, then no on that. We have due proces for a reason, not that it means dick to the government at this point.

[CWO]

[ceyko]

So then yeah, the no-fly list is f'ed up and no US citizen should probably be on it.

[CWO]

I'd love to hear the arguments from the people that think this would be okay.

[S_K]

I was put on the no-fly list for 5 years because I took too many one-way flights and I was popped once for explosive residue. (I visited a rock quarry during a blast and the shit got all over my clothes and backpack)

[Chili]

The no fly list should have nothing to do with, and no impact on, the rights of citizens. That would be like saying someone also could not vote because they are on the list..

Only if due process is followed when placing somebody on the list. Otherwise a shitbag like Hillary could say anybody who wants to buy a 'assault rifle' is a threat and must be put on the list.

Exactly..

BTW OP, your poll is fucked because you state the question differently in your post than on the poll. If someone answers no to your posted question, they would answer yes to your poll question.. I don't think a few others noticed, hence all of the 'no' answers on the actual poll (which means they should not be able to buy guns).

[Baron Von Crowder]

The no fly list should have nothing to do with, and no impact on, the rights of citizens. That would be like saying someone also could not vote because they are on the list..



Exactly..

BTW OP, your poll is fucked because you state the question differently in your post than on the poll. If someone answers no to your posted question, they would answer yes to your poll question.. I don't think a few others noticed, hence all of the 'no' answers on the actual poll (which means they should not be able to buy guns).

I didnt even notice. What kinda fucked up liberal pole is that?

[zora04]

I'd love to hear the arguments from the people that think this would be okay.

X2. They must be fucking around.

[Gargamel]

X2. They must be fucking around.

We would have to have people who actually trust the federal government.

Not too many of those on this site.....

[abecx]

BTW OP, your poll is fucked because you state the question differently in your post than on the poll. If someone answers no to your posted question, they would answer yes to your poll question.. I don't think a few others noticed, hence all of the 'no' answers on the actual poll (which means they should not be able to buy guns).

I had to read it 4 times to make sure I answered it correctly.

Although the question should be rewritten it would skew the results, this reads better to me at least.

"Should people on the no-fly-list be banned from purchasing weapons?"

[GhostTX]

The no fly list should have nothing to do with, and no impact on, the rights of citizens. That would be like saying someone also could not vote because they are on the list..



Exactly..

BTW OP, your poll is fucked because you state the question differently in your post than on the poll. If someone answers no to your posted question, they would answer yes to your poll question.. I don't think a few others noticed, hence all of the 'no' answers on the actual poll (which means they should not be able to buy guns).

Should people not not be on a list that makes them unable them to not buy guns...

[zora04]

Should people not not be on a list that makes them unable them to not buy guns...

Yes?