Trump '16

[David]

Your change should happen before you're down to the final two. Waiting for the last minute is just the ability to continue to bitch about it.

[46Tbird]

I want neither of them, so I will vote for neither. If that puts Hillary in office, so be it. They are equaly shitty and progressive and will lead us down the same path. We as a country are fucked either way and I think we just passed our last real chance to turn this around. Hillary or Trump is all the sam to me, so I will happily not vote, or vote Libertarian.

You really believe the country will be on the same path whether Hillary is president or Trump is president? They've both got serious downsides, but c'mon.

I don't like the guy, but the way he took the Republicans' candy and repeatedly bitch slaps them with it is hilarious.

[BLAKE]

I don't like the guy, but the way he took the Republicans' candy and repeatedly bitch slaps them with it is hilarious.

On a domestic level, I totally agree. On an international diplomacy level, this goon is the poster child for the ugly American. Charming in a 'Murica kind of way, but in the bigger picture, lots of potential to do more harm than good. But hey, at least there's a chance he and Putin could be bear hunting buddies.

[46Tbird]

Well, with the only alternative being Hillary, bring it on.

[SS Junk]

I just dismiss his antics as another New Yorker. The Northeast had a shit fest with both Bush administrations as well as Palin's mannerisms. I don't see it being any different now.

[LANTIRN]

You really believe the country will be on the same path whether Hillary is president or Trump is president? They've both got serious downsides, but c'mon.

I don't like the guy, but the way he took the Republicans' candy and repeatedly bitch slaps them with it is hilarious.

They both lie constantly and have zero ethical standards. Yes, all politicians lie, but these two are on an entirely different level. She lies about not comitting all the illegal acts she has been caught up in, and he lies about his policies or personal beliefs daily. I expect all politicians to lie, especially Hillary since she is avoiding prison, but Trump's lies are just absurd. Everyone talks about all the awesome stuff he will get done, but no one has any proof on what that might be because he lies constantly and makes shit up. He just said his plan to pay off the debt is offer less than we owe which I am sure will do nothing but increase confidence in the US and make us look good internationally.

[46Tbird]

He just said his plan to pay off the debt is offer less than we owe which I am sure will do nothing but increase confidence in the US and make us look good internationally.

I would love to hear LANTIRN's more logical and feasible debt repayment plan that maintains high confidence in the US economy and makes us look good to future potential creditors.

[SS Junk]

They both lie constantly and have zero ethical standards.

Are you voting libertarian?

[LANTIRN]

Are you voting libertarian?

Most likely, but depends on the candidate and his actual stances. I usually don't vote just for a party just so I can check box.

[LANTIRN]

I would love to hear LANTIRN's more logical and feasible debt repayment plan that maintains high confidence in the US economy and makes us look good to future potential creditors.

Constitutional amendment for balanced budget.
Of course, that is hard to get passed especially fast. Cut budgets across every federal agency, including and especially military. Veto any legislation with excess spending. Take what we saved on the budget cuts and pay off the debt. It isnt that difficult, just like paying off credit cards or a mortgage but on a larger scale. I realize there are barriers in the way and it would take a long time but it could be done. Problem is politicians would rather give away free stuff and spend money, and the majority of the US likes that.

[jakesford]

I consider myself a staunch moderate and if there was ever a time for a strong 3rd party candidate it is now.

Fuck Trump, that man has zero sense for policy, he has ZERO foreign policy experience, and he has yet to articulate or maintain any consistency on the issues. Trump only talks in empty rhetoric. A part of me truly believes he was put out there to bifurcate the republican party and guarantee a democratic win in 2016. The republican party has truly gone to absolute shit...

Hillary is hopeless c**t, but at least you know what you are getting in regards to her stance on policy (only silver lining).

Best possible outcome; Hillary will probably win, republicans maintain control of congress and nothing gets done for 4 years. Vote Hillary and a straight republican ticket

[46Tbird]

Constitutional amendment for balanced budget.
Of course, that is hard to get passed especially fast. Cut budgets across every federal agency, including and especially military. Veto any legislation with excess spending. Take what we saved on the budget cuts and pay off the debt. It isnt that difficult, just like paying off credit cards or a mortgage but on a larger scale. I realize there are barriers in the way and it would take a long time but it could be done. Problem is politicians would rather give away free stuff and spend money, and the majority of the US likes that.

I find this interesting.

Trump said one thing he would do, and it seems everyone else fills in the blanks of what he won't do.

He may very well want to do some of that, or all of that, but remember that he heads the Executive branch and not the Legislative.

[GhostTX]

I’m Voting Trump, Warts and All

By Bobby Jindal
May 8, 2016 4:23 p.m. ET
1338 COMMENTS

Some of my fellow Republicans have declared they will never, under any circumstances, vote for Donald Trump. They are pessimistic about the party’s chances in November and seem more motivated by long-term considerations. They think devotion to the “anybody but Trump” movement is a principled and courageous stance that will help preserve a remnant of the conservative movement and its credibility, which can then serve as a foundation for renewal.

I sympathize with this perspective, but I am planning to vote for Donald Trump. Why? Because the stakes for my country, not merely my party, are simply too high.

I was one of the earliest and loudest critics of Mr. Trump. I mocked his appearance, demeanor, ideology and ego in the strongest language I have ever used to publicly criticize anyone in politics. I worked harder than most, with little apparent effect, to stop his ascendancy. I have not experienced a sudden epiphany and am not here to detail an evolution in my perspective.

I believe this presidential election cycle favors Republicans, due more to President Obama’s shortcomings than to any of our virtues or cleverness. I also believe that Donald Trump will have the hardest time of any of the Republican candidates in winning. He has stubbornly stuck to the same outlandish behavior and tactics that have served him so well to date. Mr. Trump continues to have the last laugh at the expense of his critics and competitors, myself included.

I think electing Donald Trump would be the second-worst thing we could do this November, better only than electing Hillary Clinton to serve as the third term for the Obama administration’s radical policies. I am not pretending that Mr. Trump has suddenly become a conservative champion or even a reliable Republican: He is completely unpredictable. The problem is that Hillary is predictably liberal.

There will be none of her husband’s triangulation. Republicans are fooling themselves if they think this President Clinton would sign into law policies like Nafta, the crime bill, welfare reform, or the deficit reduction packages that marked Bill’s tenure. While Bill felt compelled to confront Sister Souljah—and less directly Jesse Jackson—to appeal to moderate voters, Hillary is more responsive to pressure from Black Lives Matter and the far left. I have no idea what Mr. Trump might do, while Mrs. Clinton is predictable. Both are scary, the former less so.

The next president will make a critical appointment to the Supreme Court, who will cast the tiebreaking vote in important cases that will set precedents for years to come. Issues like the sanctity of innocent human life, constitutional protections for religious liberty and Second Amendment rights, and limits on the unelected federal bureaucracy hang in the balance.

In my lifetime, no Democrat in the White House has ever appointed a Supreme Court justice who surprised the nation by becoming more conservative, while the opposite certainly cannot be said for Republican appointments. Mr. Trump might not support a constitutionalist conservative focused on original intent and limits on the court’s powers. He may be more likely to appoint Judge Judy. However, there is only a chance that a President Trump would nominate a bad justice, while Mrs. Clinton certainly would.

The current president has abused his executive powers to implement ObamaCare and to grant de facto amnesty for illegal immigrants, in defiance of Congress and the courts. The next president will make critical decisions on whether to renew these executive orders or issue new ones repealing past abuses, and will make key appointments who will decide whether to continue bending the law to prop up ObamaCare.

Repealing and replacing ObamaCare will require congressional action. But President Obama has proven how much can be done by a determined executive. I admire his tenacity, though not his goals or disregard for constitutional limits. Mr. Trump has had a decidedly mixed record of both supporting and opposing more government involvement in health care. Mrs. Clinton has been much more consistent in favor of a big-government approach, dating to her own failed efforts in the 1990s.

If elected, Mrs. Clinton will continue hindering affordable domestic energy, increasing dependence on government and the growth of welfare programs, growing the nation’s debt and weakening America abroad. She will more firmly establish a culture of victimhood and identity politics, further dividing Americans rather than uniting us, and will continue promoting redistribution and government interference rather than growth and freedom.

I do not pretend Donald Trump is the Reaganesque leader we so desperately need, but he is certainly the better of two bad choices. Hardly an inspiring slogan, I know. It would be better to vote for a candidate rather than simply against one. If current trends hold, I will be among the many complaining this fall about my choices.

I understand why so many of my Republican friends are in denial, while many of my Democratic friends gleefully anticipate and applaud defections. The media is poised to reward those “courageous” Republicans ready to do the “right thing” and endorse Hillary. Count me out.

http://www.wsj.com/articles/im-voting-trump-warts-and-all-1462739009

[46Tbird]

"If elected, Mrs. Clinton will continue hindering affordable domestic energy, increasing dependence on government and the growth of welfare programs, growing the nation’s debt and weakening America abroad. She will more firmly establish a culture of victimhood and identity politics, further dividing Americans rather than uniting us, and will continue promoting redistribution and government interference rather than growth and freedom.

I do not pretend Donald Trump is the Reaganesque leader we so desperately need, but he is certainly the better of two bad choices. Hardly an inspiring slogan, I know. It would be better to vote for a candidate rather than simply against one. If current trends hold, I will be among the many complaining this fall about my choices.

I understand why so many of my Republican friends are in denial, while many of my Democratic friends gleefully anticipate and applaud defections. The media is poised to reward those “courageous” Republicans ready to do the “right thing” and endorse Hillary. Count me out."

[LANTIRN]

I find this interesting.

Trump said one thing he would do, and it seems everyone else fills in the blanks of what he won't do.

He may very well want to do some of that, or all of that, but remember that he heads the Executive branch and not the Legislative.

He has made it know he intends to bypass congress if needed. Hillary believes in the same thing, which is what we have had for the last 8 years under Obama. With either candidate you have zero checks and balances keeping them in line. It doesn't matter if the dems or reps have control of congress because we know they won't stop presidential abuses. We know the people won't elect a majority of constitutionalists to either house, so the best bet to quick checks to keep something resembling law and order in government as a constitutionalist president who had self control and ethics to check and veto congress. It wouldnt solve problems overnight, but it would have started a slow change, or at least had a chance at it. Nw you have a choice between two people who lie and maintain zero consistency on any issue, one has no experience with international affairs while the other fucked up internationally, neither have ethics or any humility, and neither one respects the constitution and both want to be a dictator. Great choices. Fuck those choices.