Cruz just dropped out

[aggie97]

Welcome to the Idiocracy. Grab the popcorn and a firearm. It's going to be a bumpy ride!

[Snatch Napkin]

Gary Johnson folks.

Gary Fucking Johnson should be who you all vote for now.

We will literally get the exact same outcome with Hillary or Donald.
You might as well throw a vote to Gary. Help out the future of our nation by allowing a third party to get traction.

[LANTIRN]

Been talking to a few others about this all day. The weird thing is that he could actually be ok. He said recently that his VP pick would be someone who knew politics very well and could work with both sides of the house and senate. He knows he wouldn't be able to survive 4 yrs on xenophobic rhetoric.

He has potential to be really good... I guess...

But at the same time just contemplating the fact that Donald fucking Trump could be president - that's up there with trying to understand advanced astrophysics with just a fine arts degree.


Here's my favorite part about all this (FWIW, I have never been on the Trump bandwagon - I voted Fred Thompson )

In NY, Bernie spent $9.03 per vote. Hillary spent $3.62 per vote.
Trump spent $0.13 per vote and won the R ticket by a fucking landslide.

Trump lies constantly though. So whatever he says that makes you think he has potential to be ok is probably just a lie. Obama lies on a regular basis but he is the most honest politician in history compared to Trump.

[sc281]

Gary Johnson folks.

Gary Fucking Johnson should be who you all vote for now.

We will literally get the exact same outcome with Hillary or Donald.
You might as well throw a vote to Gary. Help out the future of our nation by allowing a third party to get traction.

That strategy is how two Clintons get into the White House.

I'm willing to bet on Trump. I'm willing to bet that this is about legacy for him. That he wants to go down in the history books as bigger than Reagan.

I'm willing to bet on him because he is now the only horse worth betting on. All Gary Johnson Has a chance of doing is Ross Perot-ing the fuck out of this and handing the White House, and control up to 3 Supreme Court nominees, to Hillary fucking Clinton.

Even if the man accomplishes only 10% of what he sets out to do, that 10% is a shitload better than a fire breathing Hillary with her trolls in Congress and a cowed fucking opposition in the republicans.

At least his election may put some fucking spine in the Republicans.



But, being the optimist that I am, Hillary may be useful. Her and her ilk could overstep and actually throw a book of matches on this pile of dried leaves and decaying trees we call society. She may end up being the catalyst for actual change, of the regime kind.

[mstng86]

Go away! I'm bait'n!

[46Tbird]

That's strategy is how two Clintons get into the White House.

I'm willing to bet on Trump. I'm willing to bet that this is about legacy for him. That he wants to go down in the history books as bigger than Reagan.

I'm willing to bet on him because he is now the only horse worth betting on. All Gary Johnson Has a chance of doing is Ross Perot-ing the fuck out of this and handing the White House, and control up to 3 Supreme Court nominees, to Hillary fucking Clinton.

Even if the man accomplishes only 10% of what he sets out to do, that 10% is a shitload better than a fire breathing Hillary with her trolls in Congress and a cowed fucking opposition in the republicans.

At least his election may put some fucking spine in the Republicans.



But, being the optimist that I am, Hillary may be useful. Her and her ilk could overstep and actually throw a book of matches on this pile of dried leaves and decaying trees we call society. She may end up being the catalyst for actual change, of the regime kind.

Couldn't have typed it better myself.

Trump could win in a landslide and cement his legacy forever if he makes this election about three things: campaign finance reform, election reform, and term limits. If you want to bring unmotivated voters out of the woodwork, that would do it. And he's the only candidate that could possibly do it, with the way he swooped in and stole the candidacy from the Republicans.

Think about the entire way it went down, from the first time you heard "Trump is running as a Republican." At first everyone thought it was a joke. And then here we are today, about to watch him throw down with a Clinton. The Republicans and Democrats have thrown everything at him, and still he won by running the cheapest campaign and not committing himself to anything the Rs want him to do, or any campaign donor for that matter.

I don't support Trump because he hasn't discussed actual policy yet. But I do like his swinging dick style. He's got potential.

[sc281]

Couldn't have typed it better myself.

Of course you could have. I see a few spelling and grammatical errors that are in there due to my lack of proofreading.

[Chili]

That strategy is how two Clintons get into the White House.

I'm willing to bet on Trump. I'm willing to bet that this is about legacy for him. That he wants to go down in the history books as bigger than Reagan.

I'm willing to bet on him because he is now the only horse worth betting on. All Gary Johnson Has a chance of doing is Ross Perot-ing the fuck out of this and handing the White House, and control up to 3 Supreme Court nominees, to Hillary fucking Clinton.

Even if the man accomplishes only 10% of what he sets out to do, that 10% is a shitload better than a fire breathing Hillary with her trolls in Congress and a cowed fucking opposition in the republicans.

At least his election may put some fucking spine in the Republicans.



But, being the optimist that I am, Hillary may be useful. Her and her ilk could overstep and actually throw a book of matches on this pile of dried leaves and decaying trees we call society. She may end up being the catalyst for actual change, of the regime kind.

Along the same lines as I was thinking. And the bolded part was my exact reaction to Robert's suggestion (still love ya Robert!)

[Baron Von Crowder]

Couldn't have typed it better myself.


I don't support Trump because he hasn't discussed actual policy yet. But I do like his swinging dick style. He's got potential.

I'm with you, but Im thinking he's not going to be making most of the policies, his cabinet will. I'd like to hear is preferences either way.

Yesterday, I had to remind a guy that was losing his shit about trump that Obama won a fucking NOBEL PEACE PRIZE for his campaign speeches.

[LANTIRN]

That strategy is how two Clintons get into the White House.

I'm willing to bet on Trump. I'm willing to bet that this is about legacy for him. That he wants to go down in the history books as bigger than Reagan.

I'm willing to bet on him because he is now the only horse worth betting on. All Gary Johnson Has a chance of doing is Ross Perot-ing the fuck out of this and handing the White House, and control up to 3 Supreme Court nominees, to Hillary fucking Clinton.

Even if the man accomplishes only 10% of what he sets out to do, that 10% is a shitload better than a fire breathing Hillary with her trolls in Congress and a cowed fucking opposition in the republicans.

At least his election may put some fucking spine in the Republicans.



But, being the optimist that I am, Hillary may be useful. Her and her ilk could overstep and actually throw a book of matches on this pile of dried leaves and decaying trees we call society. She may end up being the catalyst for actual change, of the regime kind.

Voting for the lesser of two evils instead of constitutionalists is how we got into this mess in the first place. I refuse to do that any more. If I vote it won't be for trump or clinton.

[Chili]

Voting for the lesser of two evils instead of constitutionalists is how we got into this mess in the first place. I refuse to do that any more. If I vote it won't be for trump or clinton.

That's a very good point, and I agree completely even though it contradicts my feelings about it this election year.

I was just reading an article about millennials and voting, and how they are much more likely to vote independent than for the two big parties. That is probably the first redeeming quality of that generation that I have heard. That said, they are still the minority.

Maybe someday, I just don't think that is now, and that this is the election year to do it.

[sc281]

Voting for the lesser of two evils instead of constitutionalists is how we got into this mess in the first place. I refuse to do that any more. If I vote it won't be for trump or clinton.

And reasoning like that will ensure a Clinton White House. I agree with the sentiment, but actions have consequences.... however unwanted they may be.

It personally doesn't matter much to me. If we as a society can't be Star Trek, we might as well be zombie land.

I'll be the same thing either way: alive until I'm not.

Sidebar: I wonder if she'll move the furniture back in that she stole on the way out last time....

[ceyko]

Maybe someday, I just don't think that is now, and that this is the election year to do it.

It's already too late and by the time we get there, it won't matter anymore.

[mstng86]

This is just a hypothetical, but, is there a possibility a group of Americans could band together and go invade another country to leave this one? Say a few million Americans pull their resources and invade Cuba.

[ceyko]

This is just a hypothetical, but, is there a possibility a group of Americans could band together and go invade another country to leave this one? Say a few million Americans pull their resources and invade Cuba.

Instantly labeled as terrorists and US Military would be deployed to squelch them to help our friendly and loving neighbors.