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Originally posted by DennyWe keep saying that, but our own ROE and Commander in Chief might level the playing field, if not give us a disadvantage. WWII was the last time our military was allowed to do what they needed to do to get the job done.Originally posted by MR EDDU defend him who use's racial slurs like hes drinking water.
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Originally posted by ceyko View PostVery true. I also feel like if we're going to do a war again - we need to do some plundering.
The Roman republic, before the empire, was willing to do the hard shit. Their view on foreign policy is shown best when Quintus Fabius, the chief Roman envoy, grabbed two folds of his toga and said to the Carthaginian senate, “Here we bring you peace and war; which do you choose?” “Give us either,” was the reply. “Then I offer you war,” said Fabius.
Long story short - Carthage was destroyed, the ground was sown with salt to inhibit resettlement, and all were killed but about 50k that were taken as slaves.
They don't call it the Carthaginian solution for nothing.
When the Germans crossed the Rhine trying to invade Gaul, which Julius Caesar was in the process of " civilizing" at the time, he attacked. When the Germans ran back across the Rhine they thought they were safe from retaliation.
Caesar built a bridge across the Rhine in only 10 days, and proceeded to slaughter about 300k of them. The Germans ceased to be a problem until after his death.
When the Gauls unified and tried to take on Rome, Caesar took on two armies totalling about 3 times his force. He laid siege to and starved one at Alesia while slaughtering the other as they tried to break the siege.
Gaul wasn't an issue for almost 300 years after that.
It wasn't until a few hundred years later that Rome got soft and embraced their version of what our President likes to call "smart power".
Marcus Aurelius spent 12 years prosecuting the marcomannic wars, and was very close to destroying the Marcomanni, Quadi, and Sarmatians ability to threaten Rome, only to die of plague. His shitfuck of a son, Joaquin Phoenix, became Emperor, made a quick peace settlement with the them - pissing off all his Generals in the process, and goes home to Rome to celebrate his Triumph and party it up with bread and circuses.
You'd think the pissed off Generals would be a problem? Naw, he just had them all fired or killed. The people didn't care, the NFL was in full swing by that point, and they couldn't be bothered by it.
This mindset, over the course of a few hundred years, led to Rome bribing, paying tribute to, and eventually being overrun by the same barbarians they used to take no shit from.
Sound familiar? Welcome to our future.Last edited by sc281; 01-31-2016, 02:21 PM.
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