2 US Navy boats and 10 prisoners seized by Iran in Persian Gulf

[stephen4785]

Can someone explain why the soldiers didnt just shoot their way out? I understand that it would've caused some political issues but I would think soldiers in Iran would know better than the fuck with some US troops. The whole deal doesnt make sense to me. Why on earth would the military let Iranians detain boat fulls of our troops?

[Tremor14]

smh

[sc281]

Reads exactly like what your hero Gore would have done in that same situation- Talk a bunch of nonsense and then duck/dodge/weave.

Dip, dive, and dodge

[Tremor14]

Dip, dive, and dodge

Glad you were able to decipher what he was saying. I have a hard time reading cave-man.

[silverhatch]

If you can dodge a wrench.

[LANTIRN]

Can someone explain why the soldiers didnt just shoot their way out? I understand that it would've caused some political issues but I would think soldiers in Iran would know better than the fuck with some US troops. The whole deal doesnt make sense to me. Why on earth would the military let Iranians detain boat fulls of our troops?

Probably outgunned and if they broke down no getaway. Sometimes the cards are stacked to heavily against you.

Apparently they Iranians have video of one of the servicemen appologizing while in custody.

[SS Junk]

Glad you were able to decipher what he was saying. I have a hard time reading cave-man.

You have the effeminate liberal speak down to a T.

[helosailor]

Here's something to mull over, from someone that knows first-hand (first-handier than me)...

"I hope there are none of my FB friends gullible enough to believe the "strayed into Iranian waters and had mechanic problems" nonsense. But if so:
Matt Bracken's thoughts: "I rarely pull out my dusty old trident, but in this case, here goes. I was a Navy SEAL officer in the 1980s, and this kind of operation (transiting small boats in foreign waters) was our bread and butter. Today, these boats both not only had radar, but multiple GPS devices, including chart plotters that place your boat's icon right on the chart. The claim by Iran that the USN boats "strayed into Iranian waters" is complete bull$#it.
For an open-water transit between nations, the course is studied and planned in advance by the leaders of the Riverine Squadron, with specific attention given to staying wide and clear of any hostile nation's claimed territorial waters. The boats are given a complete mechanical check before departure, and they have sufficient fuel to accomplish their mission plus extra. If, for some unexplainable and rare circumstance one boat broke down, the other would tow it, that's why two boats go on these trips and not one! It's called "self-rescue" and it's SOP.
This entire situation is in my area of expertise. I can state with complete confidence that both Iran and our own State Department are lying. The boats did not enter Iranian waters. They were overtaken in international waters by Iranian patrol boats that were so superior in both speed and firepower that it became a "hands up!" situation, with automatic cannons in the 40mm to 76mm range pointed at them point-blank. Surrender, hands up, or be blown out of the water. I assume that the Iranians had an English speaker on a loudspeaker to make the demand. This takedown was no accident or coincidence, it was a planned slap across America's face.
Just watch. The released sailors will be ordered not to say a word about the incident, and the Iranians will have taken every GPS device, chart-plotter etc off the boats, so that we will not be able to prove where our boats were taken.
The "strayed into Iranian waters" story being put out by Iran and our groveling and appeasing State Dept. is utter and complete BS from one end to the other." - Matt Bracken

[ram57ta]

Here's something to mull over, from someone that knows first-hand (first-handier than me)...

"I hope there are none of my FB friends gullible enough to believe the "strayed into Iranian waters and had mechanic problems" nonsense. But if so:
Matt Bracken's thoughts: "I rarely pull out my dusty old trident, but in this case, here goes. I was a Navy SEAL officer in the 1980s, and this kind of operation (transiting small boats in foreign waters) was our bread and butter. Today, these boats both not only had radar, but multiple GPS devices, including chart plotters that place your boat's icon right on the chart. The claim by Iran that the USN boats "strayed into Iranian waters" is complete bull$#it.
For an open-water transit between nations, the course is studied and planned in advance by the leaders of the Riverine Squadron, with specific attention given to staying wide and clear of any hostile nation's claimed territorial waters. The boats are given a complete mechanical check before departure, and they have sufficient fuel to accomplish their mission plus extra. If, for some unexplainable and rare circumstance one boat broke down, the other would tow it, that's why two boats go on these trips and not one! It's called "self-rescue" and it's SOP.
This entire situation is in my area of expertise. I can state with complete confidence that both Iran and our own State Department are lying. The boats did not enter Iranian waters. They were overtaken in international waters by Iranian patrol boats that were so superior in both speed and firepower that it became a "hands up!" situation, with automatic cannons in the 40mm to 76mm range pointed at them point-blank. Surrender, hands up, or be blown out of the water. I assume that the Iranians had an English speaker on a loudspeaker to make the demand. This takedown was no accident or coincidence, it was a planned slap across America's face.
Just watch. The released sailors will be ordered not to say a word about the incident, and the Iranians will have taken every GPS device, chart-plotter etc off the boats, so that we will not be able to prove where our boats were taken.
The "strayed into Iranian waters" story being put out by Iran and our groveling and appeasing State Dept. is utter and complete BS from one end to the other." - Matt Bracken

I have a much better time believing this versus the "it broke down and floated into enemy territory" bullshit..and have thought it was closer to that story from the beginning.

[juiceweezl]

Here's something to mull over, from someone that knows first-hand (first-handier than me)...

"I hope there are none of my FB friends gullible enough to believe the "strayed into Iranian waters and had mechanic problems" nonsense. But if so:
Matt Bracken's thoughts: "I rarely pull out my dusty old trident, but in this case, here goes. I was a Navy SEAL officer in the 1980s, and this kind of operation (transiting small boats in foreign waters) was our bread and butter. Today, these boats both not only had radar, but multiple GPS devices, including chart plotters that place your boat's icon right on the chart. The claim by Iran that the USN boats "strayed into Iranian waters" is complete bull$#it.
For an open-water transit between nations, the course is studied and planned in advance by the leaders of the Riverine Squadron, with specific attention given to staying wide and clear of any hostile nation's claimed territorial waters. The boats are given a complete mechanical check before departure, and they have sufficient fuel to accomplish their mission plus extra. If, for some unexplainable and rare circumstance one boat broke down, the other would tow it, that's why two boats go on these trips and not one! It's called "self-rescue" and it's SOP.
This entire situation is in my area of expertise. I can state with complete confidence that both Iran and our own State Department are lying. The boats did not enter Iranian waters. They were overtaken in international waters by Iranian patrol boats that were so superior in both speed and firepower that it became a "hands up!" situation, with automatic cannons in the 40mm to 76mm range pointed at them point-blank. Surrender, hands up, or be blown out of the water. I assume that the Iranians had an English speaker on a loudspeaker to make the demand. This takedown was no accident or coincidence, it was a planned slap across America's face.
Just watch. The released sailors will be ordered not to say a word about the incident, and the Iranians will have taken every GPS device, chart-plotter etc off the boats, so that we will not be able to prove where our boats were taken.
The "strayed into Iranian waters" story being put out by Iran and our groveling and appeasing State Dept. is utter and complete BS from one end to the other." - Matt Bracken

Don't worry. Shananus will be here to post another Iranian video disputing real logic. I bet Iran sent a ball gag to our fearless leader for Christmas.

[BoostedD1]

Ok... Ummm.

1. Spec ops boats run out of fuel/gps fail...
2. Heavily armed spec ops boats manned by nerds...
3. 2nd spec ops boats goes in for rescue without tow rope...
4. Ummm... Sounds like a spec ops operation?!
5. Hint. Hint. Hint.
6. Just sayin.

[jw33]

At least it wasn't like the incident with the USS Liberty.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Liberty_incident

[Gasser64]

nah, i knew of this as soon as it happened yesterday, i was wondering how long it would take it to get here. Then i wondered how it would be Obama's fault. I wasnt let down!

That's an awful lot of wondering. You trying to steal my job?!

[Tremor14]

Don't worry. Shananus will be here to post another Iranian video disputing real logic. I bet Iran sent a ball gag to our fearless leader for Christmas.

you're the one getting the wool pulled over your eyes, i could care less. Besides I like Matt Bracken.

That's an awful lot of wondering. You trying to steal my job?!

I wonder.

[The King]

you're the one getting the wool pulled over your eyes, i could care less. Besides I like Matt Bracken.



I wonder.

The correct use of the phrase is "...I couldn't care less."