I love when democrats propose gun control

[ceyko]

Working pretty good in Philly too!

I won't even read the article. There are some people that it is worth talking with and maybe they'll at least see the correct side of it. From what I saw posted, these are the type of people I'd just walk away from. Typically, they are the first to want to get loud, obnoxious and oddly enough - violent about it.

[Broncojohnny]

Like was mentioned, this is quickly becoming a rural versus urban issue. The rural folks hold all the cards. In a situation where rural people refuse to surrender their guns, who is going to come and get them?

[svauto-erotic855]

Like was mentioned, this is quickly becoming a rural versus urban issue. The rural folks hold all the cards. In a situation where rural people refuse to surrender their guns, who is going to come and get them?

The generation of police officers who come after the ones we have now who have been taught since grade school that only criminals have guns..... If you do not think that is the case just look at history to see all of the officers who though that the list of prohibited persons in the GCA was total BS and swore not to enforce it.

You need to look at the long game just like the left does.

[Broncojohnny]

The generation of police officers who come after the ones we have now who have been taught since grade school that only criminals have guns..... If you do not think that is the case just look at history to see all of the officers who though that the list of prohibited persons in the GCA was total BS and swore not to enforce it.

You need to look at the long game just like the left does.

How can a person be taught that only criminals have guns and be an armed police officer? The biggest reason that most cops are pro 2nd amendment is common sense. Is common sense now going to go away too?

[DON SVO]

How can a person be taught that only criminals have guns and be an armed police officer? The biggest reason that most cops are pro 2nd amendment is common sense. Is common sense now going to go away too?

It's been going away.

[ceyko]

It's been going away.

It's very uncommon.

I always find myself arguing with myself about police and the good/bad in regards to the profession as a whole.

[Broncojohnny]

It was more of a rhetorical question. I think there will always be some cops who are anti-gun. But I think that most of them are going to have some common sense and realize that the reason they carry a gun is the same reason others should.

Furthermore, it isn't like the SC is going to pop up next week and reverse the Heller decision. And there isn't going to be a constitutional convention called. The current state of guns in this country is here to stay for the foreseeable future and that is what drives these leftist idiots nuts, they are so convinced that they are right but they are powerless. That thread does a great job illustrating why the lefties get so irate, they can't wait to try to tell others how to live, no different than religious fanatics, their God just happens to be the one that has murdered more than all the others, government.

[svauto-erotic855]

How can a person be taught that only criminals have guns and be an armed police officer? The biggest reason that most cops are pro 2nd amendment is common sense. Is common sense now going to go away too?

Your experiences with officers in TX had formed your biases. Go to northern California or any major city in the north east and start talking to officers about guns and they will mostly shock you with what they have to say.

Officers tend to believe that they can not be a criminal the same way many blacks believe that they can not be a racist.

[GhostTX]

How can a person be taught that only criminals have guns and be an armed police officer? The biggest reason that most cops are pro 2nd amendment is common sense. Is common sense now going to go away too?

Your experiences with officers in TX had formed your biases. Go to northern California or any major city in the north east and start talking to officers about guns and they will mostly shock you with what they have to say.

Officers tend to believe that they can not be a criminal the same way many blacks believe that they can not be a racist.

I know a TX cop that doesn't think civilians should have guns as we're "not trained as well as the police." I'm sure he's a TX LEO minority, but an example, they're out there.

[AnthonyS]

I know a TX cop that doesn't think civilians should have guns as we're "not trained as well as the police." I'm sure he's a TX LEO minority, but an example, they're out there.

I beg to differ. Most LEOs and most people carrying are severely undertrained. In the military I actually learned more about firearms from a guy in my security detachment that was on the NMC shooting team. If it weren't for him our entire detachment would have been as undertrained and ineffective as many in the military and many LEOs. Its a sad state of affairs but our government doesn't have the money or resources necessary to train everyone to a high enough standard.

And as for CCW permits the training required isn't even a bare minimum. It's also sad.

Firearms are not the problem. Education is a huge problem in our country and society on all levels including firearms. Getting rid of all the firearms in the world won't stop senseless murders. Before firearms, murders were common too just a bit messier and more personal. The biggest mass killing ever have been done using gas chambers, bombs and devices that weren't personal sidearms.

Cars kill way more people a year than firearms often times on purpose, and you don't hear anyone crying about that. The argument against the 2nd amendment isn't murder, mass killings or any other such bullshit; it's about control. Trust me, disarming the US would only make it easier for the Muslims to bring their utopia to the US. As for me, no thanks, I'm not playing your stupid game.

[GhostTX]

Kinda my point. He inferred LEO training meant better firearms handling than civilians, when it's not true across the board. I'd wager any of my friends against most cities LEO's any day. That said, I've seen CHL students who couldn't put a bullet in the right direction of a magazine.

It's all up to the individual to be well trained. Just because you're a cop, doesn't mean you're a better shooter and vice versa.

[YALE]

I know a TX cop that doesn't think civilians should have guns...

I beg to differ.

He doesn't know this person?

[CexMashean]

He doesn't know this person?

He's already begging. What else do you want him to do?

[Gasser64]

Their current laws on firearms are not far behind a total confiscation/turn in already.

I'm still waiting on them to have to repeal that shit, if they haven't already. Haven't followed up on it. We had an article posted here where the supreme court upheld the 2nd amendment, and told them (chicago I think it was, or a suburb town) that their laws are illegal and to remove them from the books and that nobody has to follow them.

Maybe its one of those things, similar to stop light cameras. They want you to think they can get you, but in reality, they can't.

[Tremor14]

They want you to think they can get you, but in reality, they can't.

Hate to say it ya'll but justin is up 5 points on the common sense debate!