Obama on TV right now assuring the USA is safe this weekend

[Forever_frost]

I hate when I get asked that same question.

"Why aren't you taking Washington back? You took an oath!"

Right, I did. I will protect and defend the constitution but it's not the military's job to remove a tyrannous government, that's the people's job. It's our job not to be in the way and to minimize casualties.

[Forever_frost]

Right but we don't start it. Unless you really want what you're asking for. Do you want to live under a military dictatorship?

[bubbaearl]

maybe we need to send buses through trailer parks this time.

[bcoop]

Maybe we just need to replace Denny's keyboard, and everything else will go away.

[BP]

I, _____, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God." (Title 10, US Code; Act of 5 May 1960 replacing the wording first adopted in 1789, with amendment effective 5 October 1962).

There is a little more to that oath. The president is still in charge.

[helosailor]

There is a little more to that oath. The president is still in charge.

Yep, every word does apply.

[Chili]

There is a little more to that oath. The president is still in charge.

Yeah, and any officers above you.. Pretty clear cut. Of course, under he UCMJ you still have an out (and obligation) to disobey unlawful orders.

I would say that when it mentions 'all enemies, foreign and domestic', it is referring to enemies of the United States, not necessarily 'violators' of the constitution. As an example, ISIS terrorists that may be US Citizens, like the San Bernardino shooter.

[BP]

Also note that officers have a different oath, there is no mention of the president or following orders. That and National Guard enlisted soldiers add their state's governor in after the president and officers.

[helosailor]

Yeah, and any officers above you.. Pretty clear cut. Of course, under he UCMJ you still have an out (and obligation) to disobey unlawful orders.

I would say that when it mentions 'all enemies, foreign and domestic', it is referring to enemies of the United States, not necessarily 'violators' of the constitution. As an example, ISIS terrorists that may be US Citizens, like the San Bernardino shooter.

Also note that officers have a different oath, there is no mention of the president or following orders. That and National Guard enlisted soldiers add their state's governor in after the president and officers.

Yep!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United...Oath_of_Office

[Z06killinsbf]

I wonder how many people know we actually have target packages for taking out all government locations.

[helosailor]

I wonder how many people know we actually have target packages for taking out all government locations.

Shhhh!

[CWO]

an hour long, but worth it

http://www.c-span.org/video/?401616-1/representative-michael-mccaul-state-homeland-security-address

[Gasser64]

Are you aware of what you're asking? A military takeover of the country, martial law and full suspension of your constitutional rights. All of them. No trial by jury, no right to remain silent, no search warrants.

Do you REALLY want that?

Its nice to talk to someone who doesn't just erupt in a fit of rage. So to answer your question, no, I would not like to live under a military dictatorship. However, I don't really see any of our generals being the "At LAST!! ITS ALL MINE!!!" types. Now granted, as I'm not clairvoyant, I of course can't say for sure that this would happen. But if I had to make a guess, I'd say they'd correct the errors that have been made, and once that was done, hand it back off to constitutionalist politicians, who would then occupy the seats where the violators used to sit. Of course I know this is all just a pipe dream, but hey.

And don't bet on the military "staying out of the way" if the people decided to tear it down and start anew. They'd be called in to try and quell the rebellion. Whether or not they'd resign... who knows. I'm picturing another civil war where it splits in two.

Lastly, short of all that, how else do you see us ever recovering from the death spiral? And you could look at it like this. Either way, in the end, you still get a military dictatorship. The effect is the exact same.

[Tremor14]

Its nice to talk to someone who doesn't just erupt in a fit of rage.

pack mentality

[bcoop]

Its nice to talk to someone who doesn't just erupt in a fit of rage. So to answer your question, no, I would not like to live under a military dictatorship. However, I don't really see any of our generals being the "At LAST!! ITS ALL MINE!!!" types. Now granted, as I'm not clairvoyant, I of course can't say for sure that this would happen. But if I had to make a guess, I'd say they'd correct the errors that have been made, and once that was done, hand it back off to constitutionalist politicians, who would then occupy the seats where the violators used to sit. Of course I know this is all just a pipe dream, but hey.

And don't bet on the military "staying out of the way" if the people decided to tear it down and start anew. They'd be called in to try and quell the rebellion. Whether or not they'd resign... who knows. I'm picturing another civil war where it splits in two.

Lastly, short of all that, how else do you see us ever recovering from the death spiral? And you could look at it like this. Either way, in the end, you still get a military dictatorship. The effect is the exact same.

This post demonstrates just how far out of touch with reality you are.

You're outnumbered. Republicans are outnumbered. The majority don't give a shit about the Constitution, thus wouldn't support "Constitutionalist politicians". Feel free to keep dreaming up hypotheticals, but that scenario will never happen. You've got a better chance of winning the lottery.