SCOTUS Rules Same Sex Marriage is legal

[ceyko]

Man, banning of the confederate flag, upholding of obamacare and legal gay marriage in the same week.

It must be hard on the NASCAR fans.

...and they say obama and crew are not doing anything.

[Mongoose]

Russia invading the Baltic States or ISIS getting a nuke > all that shit.

Russia invading the Baltic States = Not OUR problem. They have invaded them what now 5 or was it 6 times in the last 500 years? I think that only proves Russia cant maintain control of anything it invades.

on Isis getting a nuke:

I`m not saying that they couldn't get one. It`s highly improbable that they will. If they did, they don't have the resources to bring it to the US and detonate it. There is a reason why no terrorist organization has yet to acquire a nuke in the last 40 some odd years all the fringe groups have been saying they`ll get one, and why none ever will. It`s called a significant amount of unlimited money, an organizational structure to support it ( and keep everyone quiet enough about it ) , and a stable supporting country to enable it. No terror organisation has managed to master all 3 of those yet. Isis`s chances don't look promising either.

In 2025: Putin will be long gone, Russia will just be Russia, and some other splinter jihadist group will fill the void once Isis implodes that we`ll bomb the hell out of. However, we`ll be another liberal socialist country that just elected and other Democrat in the White House.

[jluv]

Marriage has been defined as man & woman in whatever church you go to.

That's just not true. I'm sure there are lots of churches out there who don't define it that way. You realize there are churches out there that are not Christian, right? Oh, the horror!

It's egotistical as fuck for Christians to think that gays shouldn't have the right to get married because the Bible says so. To you, the Bible is everything, but to some people, it's just a big book of fiction.

If a bunch of people got together and insisted that Dr. Suess was God and Green Eggs and Ham was the end all be all of truth, would you be okay with us telling you that you can only eat your breakfast in a box with a fox or with a goat in a boat?

[dcs13]

One would think. But how many bakers, florists and pizza makers have gotten the government shake down for their religious beliefs?

AND THERE lies the problem. They get targeted, harassed, sued, and shut down for standing up for their religious beliefs. The gays just go all militant on them.

[GhostTX]

So you're just giving your own bigoted opinion, but do acknowledge that marriage is a legally binding contract and not a religiously binding contract?

Nice, I'm the bigot because you're intolerant of my beliefs?

[GhostTX]

The logical gay couple will most likely go to a less bigoted church, or have the ceremony somewhere having nothing to do with a church at all.

One would think. But how many bakers, florists and pizza makers have gotten the government shake down for their religious beliefs?

[jdgregory84]

You're saying the legal document is government based and you're saying you're not married until that document is signed. I can see you're angle. But church family also recognizes it as well, that's the officiator line that's signed (which in your case could be anybody, religious or not).

Now, that said, I don't think the two documents should be the same and held of the same definition for people of same sex.

So you're just giving your own bigoted opinion, but do acknowledge that marriage is a legally binding contract and not a religiously binding contract?

[jdgregory84]

So, the church I go to doesn't believe gay marriage. For whatever reason, a gay couple wants to get married there. We say "no". So, now what happens?

The logical gay couple will most likely go to a less bigoted church, or have the ceremony somewhere having nothing to do with a church at all.

[GhostTX]

What I don't think that you're getting is that marriage has nothing to do with religion. Like I stated before, you don't actually get married in a church. You actually get married in a government building. So if a marriage license is issued by the government, why should a church have any say in the matter? Hopefully you'll get it this time, but I have my doubts.

You're saying the legal document is government based and you're saying you're not married until that document is signed. I can see you're angle. But church family also recognizes it as well, that's the officiator line that's signed (which in your case could be anybody, religious or not).

Now, that said, I don't think the two documents should be the same and held of the same definition for people of same sex.

[helosailor]

I would like to congratulate the government for, once again, getting involved in something that they have no business being involved in.
Their only role in the whole matter of marriage should be to collect documents from a couple who has married, stating that they have done so willingly, and then to make the annotations as necessary in the records.

THE END.

[GhostTX]

Exactly what part of the first amendment has been trampled on? Impeding the exercise of free religion? lmao

So, the church I go to doesn't believe gay marriage. For whatever reason, a gay couple wants to get married there. We say "no". So, now what happens?

[jdgregory84]

You're right. IMO, it's the gays forcing their version of belief down Christian throats.


Marriage has been defined as man & woman in whatever church you go to. If "civil union" contracts were made for gays, I'd have no issue. Fine. Now, to redefine the traditional role of marriage and force it as federal, that is an issue for me.

What I don't think that you're getting is that marriage has nothing to do with religion. Like I stated before, you don't actually get married in a church. You actually get married in a government building. So if a marriage license is issued by the government, why should a church have any say in the matter? Hopefully you'll get it this time, but I have my doubts.

[bcoop]

The 1st amendment and the liberty of it has just been trampled on, and y'all celebrate.

Exactly what part of the first amendment has been trampled on? Impeding the exercise of free religion? lmao

[GhostTX]

Ah, I see. So what's good for the goose isn't good for the gander. Makes perfect sense. Hard to argue impeccable logic like that. You should get a hobby instead of worrying so much about what other people do in their bedrooms. You'll lead a much more happy existence.

As said, this could have been a non-issue for the whole country had civil unions been done. Large populations of several states voted NO on redefining marriage. It's not the bedroom people are concerned about. It's the definition of marriage, and it's role of the family unit.

Religious freedom has just taken a huge hit, IMO.

[bcoop]

One win that puts all those that disagree with it on the precipice of being now against the state.

Ah, I see. So what's good for the goose isn't good for the gander. Makes perfect sense. Hard to argue impeccable logic like that. You should get a hobby instead of worrying so much about what other people do in their bedrooms. You'll lead a much more happy existence.