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  • #31
    Originally posted by GhostTX View Post
    Religious freedom is now up in the air. How soon until the government starts tearing down churches who believe homosexuality is a sin? I would love to find any Christian that believes gay is ok, to find such passages in the Bible.

    On that note, Abbot and Paxton response:

    http://www.kxii.com/home/headlines/T...310085181.html
    Correct me if I'm wrong, but if the institute of marriage existed before the bible, why should the bible be used as the source of what marriage is? Athiests get married all the time. So do Muslims, Hindus, and people of other religions that do not acknowledge the bible as being more than a fictional piece of literature.
    "Any dog under 50lbs is a cat and cats are pointless." - Ron Swanson

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    • #32
      Originally posted by dcs13 View Post
      The bible is clear on the marriage thing.

      You do realize not everyone is a Christian, right?

      Originally posted by GhostTX View Post
      Religious freedom is now up in the air. I would love to find any Christian that believes gay is ok, to find such passages in the Bible.
      Freedom of religion also includes freedom from religion. Plenty of Christians are fine with it. I'm ashamed of some of my Christian friends. Days like today reminds me why I don't hang out with them. Then there's that whole "let he who has not sinned cast the first stone" thing. Every Christian I know sins. Many of which do so frequently without remorse and with no intention of stopping, under the guise of making it right Sunday morning. That isn't Christianity. It is hypocritical.


      Abbott is a delusional fucking clown, yet again. Par for the course.
      Originally posted by BradM
      But, just like condoms and women's rights, I don't believe in them.
      Originally posted by Leah
      In other news: Brent's meat melts in your mouth.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Mongoose View Post
        Those would be nice distractions from the long term screw job we are about to get, but this court case is one of those that will have both political and social consequences for decades to come.

        8 years of Hillary with during that time:

        1. a Senate certain to flip in `16 or `18.
        2. At least one conservative justice retiring or dying.
        3. A Census in 2020 ( a presidential election year ) with data that will be used by the state legislatures that were elected that year to do Congressional Districts.
        4. Trends of rising government dependence we all can agree that will simply grow worse.
        5. Obama care? It will morph into socialized medicine.

        I find those FAR more frightening than Isis or Putin and his bankrupt country.
        Russia invading the Baltic States or ISIS getting a nuke > all that shit.
        Originally posted by lincolnboy
        After watching Games of Thrones, makes me glad i was not born in those years.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by jdgregory84 View Post
          Correct me if I'm wrong, but if the institute of marriage existed before the bible, why should the bible be used as the source of what marriage is? Athiests get married all the time. So do Muslims, Hindus, and people of other religions that do not acknowledge the bible as being more than a fictional piece of literature.
          We can argue about existing before/after & fiction another time, but right now the government has made it mandate on the what it is and can now be subject to discriminatory if you don't allow it in your church, whatever religion it is. At least, that's what I foresee.
          "Self-government won't work without self-discipline." - Paul Harvey

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          • #35
            Originally posted by bcoop View Post
            You do realize not everyone is a Christian, right?



            Freedom of religion also includes freedom from religion. Plenty of Christians are fine with it. I'm ashamed of some of my Christian friends. Days like today reminds me why I don't hang out with them. Then there's that whole "let he who has not sinned cast the first stone" thing. Every Christian I know sins. Many of which do so frequently without remorse and with no intention of stopping, under the guise of making it right Sunday morning. That isn't Christianity. It is hypocritical.


            Abbott is a delusional fucking clown, yet again. Par for the course.
            One thing to sin. Another to condone it and allow it to be repeatable. If you're Christian, the Bible is very clear on it stance with homosexuality. To ignore that and say let's let them be married is hypocritical.
            "Self-government won't work without self-discipline." - Paul Harvey

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            • #36
              Originally posted by GhostTX View Post
              We can argue about existing before/after & fiction another time, but right now the government has made it mandate on the what it is and can now be subject to discriminatory if you don't allow it in your church, whatever religion it is. At least, that's what I foresee.
              You know that getting married in a church is just ceremonial right? You actually don't get married in a church. You get married when you get the marriage license signed in a government building. It hasn't changed what is being allowed in whatever church you go to.
              "Any dog under 50lbs is a cat and cats are pointless." - Ron Swanson

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              • #37
                Originally posted by GhostTX View Post
                One thing to sin. Another to condone it and allow it to be repeatable. If you're Christian, the Bible is very clear on it stance with homosexuality. To ignore that and say let's let them be married is hypocritical.
                Peoples religious beliefs should not be force on other people.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by dcs13 View Post
                  Different deal. and NO. The bible is clear on the marriage thing. I respect someones religion. I don't respect a racist.
                  If only church and state were, I dunno, seperate.
                  Originally posted by lincolnboy
                  After watching Games of Thrones, makes me glad i was not born in those years.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Craizie View Post
                    Peoples religious beliefs should not be force on other people.
                    Ding ding ding!
                    Originally posted by BradM
                    But, just like condoms and women's rights, I don't believe in them.
                    Originally posted by Leah
                    In other news: Brent's meat melts in your mouth.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by DOHCTR View Post
                      If only church and state were, I dunno, seperate.
                      "If I asked people what they wanted, they would have said faster horses." - Henry Ford

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                      • #41
                        Man, banning of the confederate flag, upholding of obamacare and legal gay marriage in the same week.

                        It must be hard on the NASCAR fans.
                        "If I asked people what they wanted, they would have said faster horses." - Henry Ford

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                        • #42
                          Does the bible ever speak about gay marriage?

                          I thought it was all about them banging each other.

                          They are already doing that, so the marriage thing should be a non issue, right?

                          And, doesn't the bible only talk about guys getting married, does it ever mention lesbians?

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Baron Von Crowder View Post
                            Man, banning of the confederate flag, upholding of obamacare and legal gay marriage in the same week.

                            It must be hard on the NASCAR fans.
                            Fuck Obamacare, and the flag debate is fucking retarded.
                            Originally posted by BradM
                            But, just like condoms and women's rights, I don't believe in them.
                            Originally posted by Leah
                            In other news: Brent's meat melts in your mouth.

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Craizie View Post
                              Peoples religious beliefs should not be force on other people.
                              You're right. IMO, it's the gays forcing their version of belief down Christian throats.

                              Originally posted by jdgregory84 View Post
                              You know that getting married in a church is just ceremonial right? You actually don't get married in a church. You get married when you get the marriage license signed in a government building. It hasn't changed what is being allowed in whatever church you go to.
                              Marriage has been defined as man & woman in whatever church you go to. If "civil union" contracts were made for gays, I'd have no issue. Fine. Now, to redefine the traditional role of marriage and force it as federal, that is an issue for me.
                              "Self-government won't work without self-discipline." - Paul Harvey

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by GhostTX View Post
                                You're right. IMO, it's the gays forcing their version of belief down Christian throats.


                                Marriage has been defined as man & woman in whatever church you go to. If "civil union" contracts were made for gays, I'd have no issue. Fine. Now, to redefine the traditional role of marriage and force it as federal, that is an issue for me.
                                "If I asked people what they wanted, they would have said faster horses." - Henry Ford

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