Texas H.B. No.A2165

[svauto-erotic855]

I'd be willing to bet the for-profit prisons REALLY don't want to see this. We lock up a PILE of people each year for pot.

Not really. In TX you have to have 5 lbs or more to be able to get any pen time. Not sure about you but I have only seen that much pot a few times and I know a lot of shady people.

I am all on board for making it and all other drugs legal.

[big_tiger]

Thus I assume this bill decriminalizes it, but does not "legalize" the sale of it per se.

Would you have to have anything written to authorize the sale of it? Is there a law legalizing the sale of (insert random item here)?

[bcoop]

Not really. In TX you have to have 5 lbs or more to be able to get any pen time.

Just like everything else you post, this is absolutely false.

[lowthreeohz]

Just like everything else you post, this is absolutely false.

Right. Possession > 2 oz with intent could net you a year or three if the judge felt like a dick that day.

[bcoop]

It appears Rand Paul is introducing a bill to legalize pot in the Senate tomorrow.

[The King]

Would you have to have anything written to authorize the sale of it? Is there a law legalizing the sale of (insert random item here)?

Legal authorization to sell meds by prescription comes to mind.

[svauto-erotic855]

Just like everything else you post, this is absolutely false.

Really? Show me. Or should I just show you?

http://norml.org/laws/item/texas-penalties-2

Possession up to 5 pounds with no prior criminal history can only get you up to 2 years in a a state jail. State jails are not the same as the state pen.

[bcoop]

Really? Show me. Or should I just show you?

http://norml.org/laws/item/texas-penalties-2

Possession up to 5 pounds with no prior criminal history can only get you up to 2 years in a a state jail. State jails are not the same as the state pen.

There is absolutely no difference between a state jail and state penitentiary. There is state jail and federal. You're trying to argue a distinction you didn't even make correctly.

[SlowLX]

Really? Show me. Or should I just show you?

http://norml.org/laws/item/texas-penalties-2

Possession up to 5 pounds with no prior criminal history can only get you up to 2 years in a a state jail. State jails are not the same as the state pen.

You're going to make a great lawyer!

[svauto-erotic855]

There is absolutely no difference between a state jail and state penitentiary. There is state jail and federal. You're trying to argue a distinction you didn't even make correctly.

No difference between TDCJ and the TX state jails? They are by law a completely different legal entity. You need to go study the ruiz v estelle federal law suite that prompted the creation of the state jails.

[bcoop]

No difference between TDCJ and the TX state jails? They are by law a completely different legal entity. You need to go study the ruiz v estelle federal law suite that prompted the creation of the state jails.

"state jail" time is served day for day, and for non violent offenders. Both are under control of TDC. Several prisons even house both, but they are kept seperately.


I don't think you even understand the points you are trying to argue.

[svauto-erotic855]

"state jail" time is served day for day, and for non violent offenders. Both are under control of TDC. Several prisons even house both, but they are kept seperately.


I don't think you even understand the points you are trying to argue.

You said that I was telling a falsehood when I said that you can't get pen time in TX for possession of pot under 5lbs so I showed you a summery of sentences permited under the law and told you that the state jail system is legally not the state penitentiary in TX.

[bcoop]

Not really. In TX you have to have 5 lbs or more to be able to get any pen time.

You said that I was telling a falsehood when I said that you can't get pen time in TX for possession of pot under 5lbs so I showed you a summery of sentences permited under the law and told you that the state jail system is legally not the state penitentiary in TX.

Pen time. Meaning penitentiary. Since this needs to be spelled out for you....

http://www.thesaurus.com/browse/penitentiary

You then started trying to differentiate state jail vs TDCJ. When TDCJ still runs "state jail", and "state jail" is more about how you do the time than it is anything else. It is a classification of a felony.

[svauto-erotic855]

Pen time. Meaning penitentiary. Since this needs to be spelled out for you....

http://www.thesaurus.com/browse/penitentiary

You then started trying to differentiate state jail vs TDCJ. When TDCJ still runs "state jail", and "state jail" is more about how you do the time than it is anything else. It is a classification of a felony.

I defer to the TX state legislators and TX law as to what the definition of a penitentiary is in the state of TX and not to a thesaurus. The TX state jail system was established it statute to SPECIFICALLY NOT BE A PENITENTIARY as defined by TX law. TDCJ penitentiary inmates can serve time in a State Jail but State Jail inmates can not serve time in a TDCJ penitentiary. The two systems were set up to be a separate legal entity for a reason and that reason was to skirt the federal giverments orders in the ruiz v estelle case.

Words have meaning and the law is made from words. In TX State Jail doesn't mean penitentiary and that is the law. Kind of like "Established by the states" doesn't mean established by the federal givernment in the latest obamacare law suit.

This has gotten off topic; I hope that they legalize all street drugs in TX and not just pot.

PS TX fought tooth and nail in federal court to prove that the State Jail system is not a penitentiary and they won.

[F8LSVT]

They need to amend that to where if you have a prior record for pot possession it gets expunged if the bill passes into law. But thats my .02 on it.