ISIS chop off 21 heads

[Moose242]

The covenant He had with Adam, Noah and Moses all required man having to either meet requirements, obey, perform works, etc. He did this to show that we cannot control our way to Salvation. Only Jesus could take on that task. All we have to do is accept that He stood in our place. It's a gift. Deserved? Nope. Earned? Nope. Just a gift from His undying love.

To think that we have a snowball's chance (pun intended) of Salvation through anything that we can do is not only blasphemy, but ridiculous to boot.

No, what you believe is ridiculous. I mean for real dude, do you seriously buy that shit?

The belief that a cosmic Jewish zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

Makes sense!!!

[slow99]

^^^ lmao

[Baba Ganoush]

The Bible, not unlike lincolnboys' posts, was produced by a semi-primitive human brain and should not be interpreted literally.

[Ruffdaddy]

It doesnt matter if any other religion has been guilty in the past. What matter is the present and future. detracting from the present with data from the past does no good but to divert attention.

We need to fix what is wrong Now, and prevent it from getting widespread in the future. you cant do that without acknowledging the true problem.

[YALE]

There is no covenant in the bible that can remain a covenant for anyone living. A covenant is a contract, and a core requirement for contract formation is consent. I have not given anyone consent to subject me to cosmic consequences, including any god, so I am not subject to covenants that god made with anyone else. I also have never given my proxy to anyone to negotiate my cosmic fate. I am not party to a covenant with any god, so I am exempt from any consequences of it, presuming it's even true in the first place.

FWIW, I would love for things to be so simple, that all I had to do was say, "this life isn't the important one. The next one will be way better and eternal if I just believe this one thing." That would be amazing.

[racrguy]

It doesnt matter if any other religion has been guilty in the past. What matter is the present and future. detracting from the present with data from the past does no good but to divert attention.

We need to fix what is wrong Now, and prevent it from getting widespread in the future. you cant do that without acknowledging the true problem.

People who believe incontrovertible nonsense and allow their actions to be formed by that nonsense are the problem. I see the same traits in people who blindly follow X brand of news source "because they're correct."

I think the reason christianity's past is brought up is because Alex has encountered the same thing I gave in which almost every christian we've (anecdotal for sure) come across has been on some hypocritical moral high horse and completely ignored the past of their brand of myth.

[Gasser64]

They are unemployed and need jobs. According to the State Dept.

If I ever needed an excuse to burn a bunch of people, that one would be it!

Christians have killed exponentially more people than Islam has ever been responsible for.

Governments have killed more people than all religions combined, but you don't see all the statists around here complaining. If government had a d1ck they'd suck it.

Governments whos leaders were atheists, by the way. See Joseph Stalin and Adolph Hitler.

[YALE]

If I ever needed an excuse to burn a bunch of people, that one would be it!



Governments have killed more people than all religions combined, but you don't see all the statists around here complaining. If government had a d1ck they'd suck it.

Governments whos leaders were atheists, by the way. See Joseph Stalin and Adolph Hitler.

So if we criticize a religion for violence done in its name, we're atheistic statists, advocating for godless totalitarianism? And Stalin and Hitler killed people, so all government is bad? Excellent logic.

[Moose242]

Yale has this shit on lock.

[Gasser64]

So if we criticize a religion for violence done in its name, we're atheistic statists, advocating for godless totalitarianism? And Stalin and Hitler killed people, so all government is bad? Excellent logic.

To quote another post here "Not what I said broseph"

Its hard not to notice a particular group's hypocrisy, is what I'm pointing out. Its just your opinion. Likely your philosophy. You like pointing out that what you dislike has had negative effects on the world. But so often fail to mention that what you hold in high esteem as been far worse.

Not to mention you fixate on one particular religion, while seeming to want to ignore another far, FAR more violent one that is actually relevant in modern times and to the conversation. Its idiotic how much christianity is brought up when it comes to Islam. The people doing it really ought to bring up those native american rain dancers. Who still to this day dress up, dance around a fire, and pray to the spirits to bring rain to the dessert. As is their tradition. At least that way they'd be consistent.

[YALE]

Fuck it. Let's do this.

To quote another post here "Not what I said broseph"

It's not what you said, but it's the only thing you inferred. My guess is that your hyperbolic examples are just another troll post, unless you really are stupid enough to think that was a legitimate argument.

Its hard not to notice a particular group's hypocrisy, is what I'm pointing out. Its just your opinion. Likely your philosophy. You like pointing out that what you dislike has had negative effects on the world. But so often fail to mention that what you hold in high esteem as been far, far worse.

This isn't a position at all, merely a reflection of a specific comment (or a group of comments) I (or maybe someone else) made in the past, that I don't remember. Since you have failed to provide it, and failed to make it relevant, I'm not going to craft a rebuttal. Enjoy your navel-gazing. I have no idea what the fuck you're talking about.

Not to mention you fixate on one particular religion, while seeming to want to ignore another far, FAR more violent one that is actually relevant in modern times and to the conversation. Its idiotic how much christianity is brought up when it comes to Islam. The people doing it really ought to bring up those native american rain dancers, who still to this dress up, hold a large dance around a fire, and pray to the spirits to bring rain to the dessert, as is their tradition. At least that way they'd be consistent.

I am of the opinion that all religion is stupid, and holds us back. Islamics and those that would see precipitation fall on after dinner sweets are included in that.

[Gasser64]

Fuck it. Let's do this.


It's not what you said, but it's the only thing you inferred. My guess is that your hyperbolic examples are just another troll post, unless you really are stupid enough to think that was a legitimate argument.

Well it wasn't clarified nearly enough to be considered whole, but I think people who lean the same way I do politically would probably get it.

This isn't a position at all, merely a reflection of a specific comment (or a group of comments) I (or maybe someone else) made in the past, that I don't remember. Since you have failed to provide it, and failed to make it relevant, I'm not going to craft a rebuttal. Enjoy your navel-gazing. I have no idea what the fuck you're talking about.

That's often the case with your kind, you just don't get it. You just don't understand why someone would be so skeptical of said groups or their ideals. That kind of thing just doesn't register with you. Its because you belong to that group, please don't pretend you don't. (those with faith in government) One need only read your frequent attempts to "clarify" government overreach to conclude this. If I'm wrong, then why do you appear so different than the larger conservative base of this board? Why is it that you're always nay saying comments that would appear to disparage what ol uncle sam is up to lately? Perhaps I would have to actually know you in person to understand, but this is just how you and a few others come off to me. In short, I just calls em as I sees em.

Our arguments, nor our differing positions are anything new. Those who put their faith in government and those who don't, or otherwise put their faith in something else, have been going at it for a very long time. And will continue to do so until government finally at long last becomes obsolete and is no longer needed. Oh glorious day.

This might help: I hate the government. I hate most of it stands for. (these days). I hate almost all of the politicians, and their wretched corruption. I hate their media lapdogs. I hate their apologists. I believe it is nothing more than a necessary evil. And given their attempts at every turn to further subdue us, its clear to most people that it is in fact, an evil.

I am of the opinion that all religion is stupid, and holds us back. Islamics and those that would see precipitation fall on after dinner sweets are included in that.

I am of the opinion that most religion is stupid, just not all. And that many religions hold some people back, but not all.

Please clarify the underlined. I think i get the gist of it but I'm not sure if there is a typo in there.

[Ruffdaddy]

You guys are exceptionally bad at caring for the important element. Theres gotta be a way we can bring in slavery too. You know...we cant complain about isis having child and women slaves because of the white man.

since christians have wronged others...the islamist extremists have a get out of jail free card. Glad to see this board had gone full liberal.

[SS Junk]

How so? It shows how evil Christianity can be and often is.

Still no explanation for this? I am a Christian. I believe in Jesus Christ. How am I evil?

[Denny]

Still no explanation for this? I am a Christian. I believe in Jesus Christ. How am I evil?

He'd have the same question if we associated him with an atheist like Mao and his actions. It's whatever.

The thing is, today, it is the teachings of Islam that is driving these people. Sound, fundamental Islamic doctrine justifies this. It always has and always will. Islam has been a threat to the,world since day one. It was Muhammad's driving force of proselytizing and his best sellING point that brought in followers. Their goal was to conquer from day one. They use submission as an excuse to either be killed or surrender and accept their laws.

Can anyone show me, in their lifetime, any example of Christianity doing that? Using something like the Crusades is not a good example since no thanks ING was supported by Christian Doctrine and people didn't even have the teachings of Christ in their think tanks to begin with.