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  • #76
    Originally posted by DOHCTR View Post
    So without religion nobody would have staked a claim to the Americas? That is a pretty weak fucking argument homie.
    He didn't say that. He said it wouldn't be what it is today. They broke away from Monarchies and overpowering religious hiarchies to worship the way they wanted and let others do the same.

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    • #77
      Originally posted by DOHCTR View Post
      So without religion nobody would have staked a claim to the Americas? That is a pretty weak fucking argument homie.
      Not what I said, broseph.

      Free will is the basis for the society that was built on this patch of land we call America. We aquired it from godless heathens, fair and square!

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      • #78
        Originally posted by DOHCTR View Post
        Did God not tell the Diaspora to raze the city of Jericho and kill everyone inside?

        "Now kill all the boys. And kill every woman who has slept with a man, but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man. (Numbers 31:17-18)"

        Did David not kill 25,000 Syrians?

        "And he brought out the people that were in it, and cut them with saws, and with harrows of iron, and with axes..." (I Chronicles 20:3)

        And my personal favorite because everyone is all about dem damn durty muslims beheading everyone:

        And the LORD said unto Moses, 'Take all the heads of the people and hang them up before the LORD against the sun, that the fierce anger of the LORD may be turned away from Israel.'" (Numbers 25:3-4)


        On what moral ground can a Christian proclaim to be more pious than a Muslim when their own holy book says shit like this? And hell, these are just a sampling.
        Who did Jesus command to kill?

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        • #79
          Originally posted by DOHCTR View Post
          So without religion nobody would have staked a claim to the Americas? That is a pretty weak fucking argument homie.
          Are you going to tell him his argument is weak and then come up with some alternate history as a counterpoint? That would be even weaker than what he is saying.

          We all get it, you don't like religion for whatever reason. Or Jews either. No reason to come up with outlandish shit like the idea that Christians are just as bad as Islamic radicals.
          Originally posted by racrguy
          What's your beef with NPR, because their listeners are typically more informed than others?
          Originally posted by racrguy
          Voting is a constitutional right, overthrowing the government isn't.

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          • #80
            Originally posted by Broncojohnny View Post
            Are you going to tell him his argument is weak and then come up with some alternate history as a counterpoint? That would be even weaker than what he is saying.

            We all get it, you don't like religion for whatever reason. Or Jews either. No reason to come up with outlandish shit like the idea that Christians are just as bad as Islamic radicals.
            Bah, he's doing fine!

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            • #81
              Originally posted by Denny View Post
              Who did Jesus command to kill?
              Well if you believe that God and Jesus are one in the same, then a shit ton
              Originally posted by lincolnboy
              After watching Games of Thrones, makes me glad i was not born in those years.

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              • #82
                Originally posted by Broncojohnny View Post
                Are you going to tell him his argument is weak and then come up with some alternate history as a counterpoint? That would be even weaker than what he is saying.

                We all get it, you don't like religion for whatever reason. Or Jews either. No reason to come up with outlandish shit like the idea that Christians are just as bad as Islamic radicals.
                Not at all, but his statement was a logical fallacy and assumed that without some Jesus then there would be no civil rights or freedom of speech. A bizarre correlation for a secular society.

                And I dislike all religious people equally. Jews, Muslims, Christians, whatever.
                Originally posted by lincolnboy
                After watching Games of Thrones, makes me glad i was not born in those years.

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                • #83
                  Originally posted by DOHCTR View Post
                  Well if you believe that God and Jesus are one in the same, then a shit ton
                  Doy you understand His different covenants and the reasons He had them (and the order He had them)?

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                  • #84
                    Originally posted by DOHCTR View Post
                    Not at all, but his statement was a logical fallacy and assumed that without some Jesus then there would be no civil rights or freedom of speech. A bizarre correlation for a secular society.
                    Without god fearing men fighting and dying for their beliefs, regardless of religious affiliation, you would be an ump-teenth generation surf with zero rights and no voice.

                    Hate religion all you want but it's responsible for your current status as a free, un-oppressed hypocrite.

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                    • #85
                      The New Testament doesn't provide a shred of evidence for killing a non-believer, just because they are a non-believer. Christians are followers of Jesus and his teachings, the New Testament.
                      ازدهار رأسه برعشيت

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                      • #86
                        Originally posted by Denny View Post
                        Doy you understand His different covenants and the reasons He had them (and the order He had them)?
                        Lordy it has been a while. In all honesty I could use a refresher course.
                        Originally posted by lincolnboy
                        After watching Games of Thrones, makes me glad i was not born in those years.

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                        • #87
                          Originally posted by Baba Ganoush View Post
                          Without god fearing men fighting and dying for their beliefs, regardless of religious affiliation, you would be an ump-teenth generation surf with zero rights and no voice.

                          Hate religion all you want but it's responsible for your current status as a free, un-oppressed hypocrite.
                          Yeah but that's wrong though. And what is a surf?
                          Originally posted by lincolnboy
                          After watching Games of Thrones, makes me glad i was not born in those years.

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                          • #88
                            Originally posted by DOHCTR View Post
                            And what is a surf?
                            It's like a winch.....

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                            • #89
                              Originally posted by DOHCTR View Post
                              Lordy it has been a while. In all honesty I could use a refresher course.
                              The covenant He had with Adam, Noah and Moses all required man having to either meet requirements, obey, perform works, etc. He did this to show that we cannot control our way to Salvation. Only Jesus could take on that task. All we have to do is accept that He stood in our place. It's a gift. Deserved? Nope. Earned? Nope. Just a gift from His undying love.

                              To think that we have a snowball's chance (pun intended) of Salvation through anything that we can do is not only blasphemy, but ridiculous to boot.

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                              • #90
                                Talking snakes are real!

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