FCC Chairman's Proposal Will Radically Change The Rules Of The Internet

[Craizie]

The good old "you don't really need it" argument. I know it gets tiring/boring when I repeatedly, response after response, point out your inability to make logical points, but this exceeds the standard. Bravo.

Boosh!

[mr tinfoil hat]

This bullshit is all about controlling alternative media and giving big bro the ability to control content and some other things.

Don't be fooled by the right hand why they screw you with the left. It's a fucking scam, it's cispa, acta, Sopa, pipa, and all the other bullshit ruses that they couldn't pass before repackaged and re labeled as some other shit so we will accept it. Everyone wants faster Internet who'd argue with that?

Nothing is ever what these criminals claim it to be. The end game is to eventually have a log in or drivers license type sign in to the Internet to make it impossible to be anonymous and a slew of other bullshit ideas to have complete control over everything you say and do on the web. Wait and see, one way or another they will force this upon us, and in the end we will see it had absolutely nothing to do with what they claimed it was for when someone finally reads the bill after it passes.

[racrguy]

This bullshit is all about controlling alternative media and giving big bro the ability to control content and some other things.

Don't be fooled by the right hand why they screw you with the left. It's a fucking scam, it's cispa, acta, Sopa, pipa, and all the other bullshit ruses that they couldn't pass before repackaged and re labeled as some other shit so we will accept it. Everyone wants faster Internet who'd argue with that?

Nothing is ever what these criminals claim it to be. The end game is to eventually have a log in or drivers license type sign in to the Internet to make it impossible to be anonymous and a slew of other bullshit ideas to have complete control over everything you say and do on the web. Wait and see, one way or another they will force this upon us, and in the end we will see it had absolutely nothing to do with what they claimed it was for when someone finally reads the bill after it passes.

How did you come up with this?

[mr tinfoil hat]

How did you come up with this?

Years of reading and watching our criminal "representatives" lie and stab us in the back repeadidly. They can only tell you one thing and do another so many times until you realize they're full of shit and just continue to bait and switch us. Liars lie, and power attracts the worst kind of liars. We have a government chock fucking full of them.

[racrguy]

Years of reading and watching our criminal "representatives" lie and stab us in the back repeadidly. They can only tell you one thing and do another so many times until you realize they're full of shit and just continue to bait and switch us. Liars lie, and power attracts the worst kind of liars. We have a government chock fucking full of them.

Past performance isn't indicative of future results.

[mr tinfoil hat]

Past performance isn't indicative of future results.

I can only tell you what I see and believe to be true. I'm not asking you to subscribe to my beliefs.

[GhostTX]

I await the "fair" tax for internet usage, and for it to go up for "international" IP hits.

[exlude]

I can only tell you what I see and believe to be true. I'm not asking you to subscribe to my beliefs.

Well for this rare circumstance you have a government acting in favor of the consumer. Reclassifying as Title II isn't a step forward in government control, it's a step back from the massive amounts of undue government interference that is already in play in favor of the monopolies, not the consumer.

Our representatives, local and federal, have been bought and paid for by these internet service providers. Through this, they have unfairly restricted the marketplace and stifled competition. They have used tax dollars to build infrastructure that they control. And now due to a government propped monopoly, they are free to produce an inferior product, charge you more for it, and control what information you consume. Title II takes significant steps to undo the damage that's been done.

Quite frankly, I'm amazed people don't consider internet a utility in this day and age. But, as I've echoed before, I believe most of that is a knee jerk reaction to Obama saying anything about it. This wasn't a discussion for many before he did. I don't remember seeing threads about open internet legislation/regulation by the FCC or Verizon's legal victory in the past, many act like it's a recent construct. It's not.

[Gasser64]

The good old "you don't really need it" argument. I know it gets tiring/boring when I repeatedly, response after response, point out your inability to make logical points, but this exceeds the standard. Bravo.

Still just making shit up on the fly, eh? Where exactly, did I tell him he didn't need it? Please point that out exactly. I asked him a few questions, but I never said he didn't need it. This is why I can never take you seriously. You just tailor other people's points to whatever you want them to be. Also, I'm still waiting on you to grace us with your infinite wisdom. Go ahead and frantically google and learn all you can in a short time about networking.

Past performance isn't indicative of future results.

I would make that old quote about history, but with you.. what's the point.

Well for this rare circumstance you have a government acting in favor of the consumer. Reclassifying as Title II isn't a step forward in government control, it's a step back from the massive amounts of undue government interference that is already in play in favor of the monopolies, not the consumer.

Our representatives, local and federal, have been bought and paid for by these internet service providers. Through this, they have unfairly restricted the marketplace and stifled competition. They have used tax dollars to build infrastructure that they control. And now due to a government propped monopoly, they are free to produce an inferior product, charge you more for it, and control what information you consume. Title II takes significant steps to undo the damage that's been done.

Of course it is. With you left leaners its always "well this one RARE time, I promise.." and then we take the D in the A. No deal. I'll admit I haven't read the whole thing but there is no way anyone can ever say that we all shouldn't be very mistrustful of the government and especially when they get to talking about this.

And someone please cite where I said we shouldn't have any improvements, and that our internetz should always stay the same. Since that seems to be the running argument.

[CexMashean]

The funny thing is, this guy probably believes the shit he types. Anyone who doesn't agree with him is a left leaning socialist commie. Amazing.

[matts5.0]

Dude, get over yourself, the government wants to help.

[mr tinfoil hat]

Well for this rare circumstance you have a government acting in favor of the consumer. Reclassifying as Title II isn't a step forward in government control, it's a step back from the massive amounts of undue government interference that is already in play in favor of the monopolies, not the consumer.

Our representatives, local and federal, have been bought and paid for by these internet service providers. Through this, they have unfairly restricted the marketplace and stifled competition. They have used tax dollars to build infrastructure that they control. And now due to a government propped monopoly, they are free to produce an inferior product, charge you more for it, and control what information you consume. Title II takes significant steps to undo the damage that's been done.

Quite frankly, I'm amazed people don't consider internet a utility in this day and age. But, as I've echoed before, I believe most of that is a knee jerk reaction to Obama saying anything about it. This wasn't a discussion for many before he did. I don't remember seeing threads about open internet legislation/regulation by the FCC or Verizon's legal victory in the past, many act like it's a recent construct. It's not.

I hear you and see what you're saying, and all their sales pitches sound peachy, but until the actions of the government match their claims, I'll continue to be skeptical. The bottom line is they never do anything for our benefit that I've witnessed. Talk is cheap and I don't trust a word known liars say.

[CexMashean]

Talk is cheap and I don't trust a word known liars say.

So why do you think we should allow the ISP's and cell phone providers to do exactly what you don't like letting politicians do?

[mr tinfoil hat]

So why do you think we should allow the ISP's and cell phone providers to do exactly what you don't like letting politicians do?

It's two completely different things. Having a phone or Internet is a choice you make to be involved in. You dont have to have a phone or internet. The government is not optional, and you cant just say "fuck it I don't want one"

It's my belief that this is a scam for the reasons I stated above in my previous posts. Time will tell and we shall see what the true motive behind this is. On the surface it seems reasonable and all. I just have serious doubts about anything these criminals claim being what they say it is.

[matts5.0]

So why do you think we should allow the ISP's and cell phone providers to do exactly what you don't like letting politicians do?

because free market brah!

but seriously, the problem is basically because of corporations colluding with government to eliminate competition. Right? so the solution is to give government more power to regulate corporations, to make internet a government controlled utility?