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  • Originally posted by Forever_frost View Post
    Actually, it shows I have a very good handle on how the federal government works
    your only argument on this subject is constitution and evil government.

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    • Originally posted by Forever_frost View Post
      And remind me how the government handles competitors.
      Again, this is the line of thinking Ted Cruz is stuck in. Regulation is not ownership. You spring from point to point before even attempting to conclude one.
      Last edited by exlude; 11-14-2014, 10:37 PM.

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      • Originally posted by Forever_frost View Post
        Okay we'll go Barney level.

        Does the constitution call for the raising and supporting of the Armies?
        Does the supporting of those armies extend past the term of their service, per the constitution?
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        • Originally posted by YALE View Post
          Does the supporting of those armies extend past the term of their service, per the constitution?
          Ooh, I know. Pick me. PICK ME!

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          • Originally posted by YALE View Post
            Does the supporting of those armies extend past the term of their service, per the constitution?
            Only if the service member is injured as a result. Did you know that if you don't have a service connected issue you get jack shit unless you pay for it? Seriously, the VA doesn't treat you for free unless you're service connected. Neat tidbit for today.

            Now, since you agree that that is a power of the Congress, then you will also read a bit further down where the constitution authorizes laws to carry out these enumerated powers, correct?
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            • Originally posted by John -- '02 HAWK View Post
              your only argument on this subject is constitution and evil government.
              Evil? No, not evil. The government does what every organization does, try to grow and persist. This is a government doing what they do naturally.
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              • Originally posted by Forever_frost View Post
                Only if the service member is injured as a result. Did you know that if you don't have a service connected issue you get jack shit unless you pay for it? Seriously, the VA doesn't treat you for free unless you're service connected. Neat tidbit for today.

                Now, since you agree that that is a power of the Congress, then you will also read a bit further down where the constitution authorizes laws to carry out these enumerated powers, correct?
                And unfortunately, one of the most abused. It seems like the cheaters get treatment, and the ones with legitimate issues get the runaround.
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                • Originally posted by Forever_frost View Post
                  Evil? No, not evil. The government does what every organization does, try to grow and persist. This is a government doing what they do naturally.
                  so then your arguing about allowing the excessive commercialization and limiting of a communication system because its the right thing to do per your view of constitutional law?

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                  • Originally posted by Forever_frost View Post
                    Only if the service member is injured as a result. Did you know that if you don't have a service connected issue you get jack shit unless you pay for it? Seriously, the VA doesn't treat you for free unless you're service connected. Neat tidbit for today.

                    Now, since you agree that that is a power of the Congress, then you will also read a bit further down where the constitution authorizes laws to carry out these enumerated powers, correct?
                    But that's not all in the original constitution.
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                    • Originally posted by John -- '02 HAWK View Post
                      so then your arguing about allowing the excessive commercialization and limiting of a communication system because its the right thing to do per your view of constitutional law?
                      I believe that your understanding of the "Frost" theory of government is correct.

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                      • So wait a minute....one of the last, if not the last, bastions of freedom in this country and we wanna give the Feds an open door to regulate it.

                        My internet works just fine and there is no way you can convince me the Feds would do anything but fudge it up. Constitutional authority or not.

                        Don't go down this slippery road people.
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                        • Originally posted by boost addict View Post
                          So wait a minute....one of the last, if not the last, bastions of freedom in this country and we wanna give the Feds an open door to regulate it.

                          My internet works just fine and there is no way you can convince me the Feds would do anything but fudge it up. Constitutional authority or not.

                          Don't go down this slippery road people.
                          Slippery slope argument, you dirty isolationist.
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                          • Originally posted by matts5.0 View Post
                            Slippery slope argument, you dirty isolationist.
                            I know. Next I'll be using phrases like "government is like a ratchet".... I better stay in disguise. Lol
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                            • Originally posted by boost addict View Post
                              So wait a minute....one of the last, if not the last, bastions of freedom in this country and we wanna give the Feds an open door to regulate it.

                              My internet works just fine and there is no way you can convince me the Feds would do anything but fudge it up. Constitutional authority or not.

                              Don't go down this slippery road people.
                              It's already regulated. What do you think the FCC does? The problem is that the freedom on the net you mentioned is relative to which company is handling the data. That's not right. They should treat data running through their systems equally, regardless of source or destination. They should charge accordingly, but they shouldn't use throttling to extort money out of customers at any level. That's not dealing squarely. That's being a cheat and a thief. That's also a huge privacy issue, because it means they're inspecting packets to figure out what's coming from where and going to whom, so they can again throttle content accordingly.

                              EDIT: Wait. When was the most free time in your mind?
                              Last edited by YALE; 11-15-2014, 11:28 PM.
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                              • Originally posted by YALE View Post
                                It's already regulated. What do you think the FCC does? The problem is that the freedom on the net you mentioned is relative to which company is handling the data. That's not right. They should treat data running through their systems equally, regardless of source or destination. They should charge accordingly, but they shouldn't use throttling to extort money out of customers at any level. That's not dealing squarely. That's being a cheat and a thief. That's also a huge privacy issue, because it means they're inspecting packets to figure out what's coming from where and going to whom, so they can again throttle content accordingly.

                                EDIT: Wait. When was the most free time in your mind?
                                And the government will make it all fair and right and just. They do after all have our, we the people's, best interest at heart!
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