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    A Circuit Court judge in Virginia has ruled that fingerprints are not protected by the Fifth Amendment, a decision that has clear privacy implications for fingerprint-protected devices like newer iPhones and iPads.

    According to Judge Steven C. Fucci, while a criminal defendant can't be compelled to hand over a passcode to police officers for the purpose of unlocking a cellular device, law enforcement officials can compel a defendant to give up a fingerprint.

    The Fifth Amendment states that "no person shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself," which protects memorized information like passwords and passcodes, but it does not extend to fingerprints in the eyes of the law, as speculated by Wired last year.

    Judge Steven C. Frucci ruled this week that giving police a fingerprint is akin to providing a DNA or handwriting sample or an actual key, which the law permits. A pass code, though, requires the defendant to divulge knowledge, which the law protects against, according to Frucci's written opinion.

    The ruling stemmed from a case involving David Baust, who was accused of strangling his girlfriend. Prosecutors believed Baust may have stored video of the attack on his phone, and requested that the judge force him to unlock it. If protected by a passcode, Baust will not be required to unlock his phone under the Fifth Amendment, but if protected with a fingerprint, he could potentially be forced to unlock the device.

    If Baust's phone is an iPhone that's equipped with Touch ID, it's very likely that it will be passcode locked at this point and thus protected by law. Touch ID requires a passcode after 48 hours of disuse, a restart, or three failed fingerprint entry attempts, and the device has probably been in police custody for quite some time. It is unclear if the judge's ruling will have an impact on future cases involving cellular devices protected with fingerprint sensors, as it could be overturned by an appeal or a higher court.

    A Circuit Court judge in Virginia has ruled that fingerprints are not protected by the Fifth Amendment, a decision that has clear privacy...
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  • #2
    So just have the passcode

    Im sure there is an app or hack to bypass and just get the passcode going. ..they may as well have not even made the ruling
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    • #3
      Just turn your phone off. It makes you use the passcode the first login.

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      • #4
        wonder if they can get you for tampering with evidence if you smash the fuck out of the phone in front of the cop?

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Back N Black View Post
          wonder if they can get you for tampering with evidence if you smash the fuck out of the phone in front of the cop?
          Yes.

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          • #6
            It'll be appealed up. Regardless, changed mine from swipe to pass code.

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            • #7
              Doesn't matter what the law states. As long as dumb fucks record crimes on their phones or discuss criminal activity on social media, authorities will keep folks on staff and pay them well to sleuth this info out and lie about the means used to do so.

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              • #8
                Can the judge not just get a warrant?

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by 2011GT View Post
                  Can the judge not just get a warrant?
                  Cops and Judges are too lazy to be bothered with such time consuming nonsense. The Constitution gets in their way.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by LANTIRN View Post
                    Cops and Judges are too lazy to be bothered with such time consuming nonsense. The Constitution gets in their way.
                    Even with a warrant, they can't force you to give up the pass code, they'd have to hack it if they wanted the info and you won't unlock the phone.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by racrguy View Post
                      Even with a warrant, they can't force you to give up the pass code, they'd have to hack it if they wanted the info and you won't unlock the phone.
                      Oh yeah, even if they had a warrant I would still make it as difficult and as time consuming as possible for them.
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                      • #12
                        How. . . . . how is this even a thing/issue?
                        If a cop went through my phone, all he'd see is titties and a few games from the playstore.
                        Do people really keep their criminal activity on their phone, and if so, why should I care if laws have to be made to keep up with technology?
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                        • #13
                          I must be living right, because I have never had my iphone placed into police custody.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Magnus View Post
                            Do people really keep their criminal activity on their phone, and if so, why should I care if laws have to be made to keep up with technology?
                            Yes. You would be very surprised at the incriminating evidence on people's phones. It's ridiculous.

                            I am against legislating common sense, and bitching about privacy while living every waking second on social media is ironic and idiotic.

                            You want your privacy? Don't fucking document your criminal activity and post it on the web, or carry it around with you. We don't need more laws to protect the dumbshits, we need more ways to rid the gene pool of them.

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                            • #15
                              I'm all for way more executions
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