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  • Kim Jong-un Overthrown?

    There have been lots of stories from different sources the last few days. Not sure what's going on over there.

    A former counterintelligence chief says the dictator has been sidelined by a powerful group called the Organisation and Guidance Department.


    Former North Korean spy believes Kim Jong-un has been overthrown in ‘silent coup’

    North Korean leader Kim Jong-un has been conspicuous by his absence in the past month, leading speculation to run wild over the reason he has gone to ground.

    Is it illness, injury, death (still the most common reason to go to ground) – or is it Emmental?

    Now one of the secretive state’s top defectors has suggested that the 31-year-old has been the target of a silent coup.

    Jang Jin-sung, once a key element in former leader Kim Jong-il’s counterintelligence and propaganda machine, says the dictator is being quietly but firmly sidelined by a powerful group called the Organisation and Guidance Department (OGD).

    The OGD was set up by Kim Jong-un’s father in the Nineties, and the group remains loyal to the policies and direction of the former leader.

    And Jang Jin-sung claims Kim Jong-un is not always headed in the same direction.

    He said the OGD has taken control of the long-term strategy for North Korea – not so much in open and aggressive defiance of Kim Jong-un, rather they simply ignore any of the leader’s orders.

    Kim Jong-un – like many other North Korean officials who appear to be in positions of great power – is kept installed as a figurehead of a state ruled by the OGD.

    Jang was quoted by Vice News as saying: ‘It’s not actually consciously civil war, but there are these two incompatible forces at play.’

    Vice also quotes Remco Breuker, professor of Korean Studies at Holland’s Leiden University, as saying: ‘The real power resides within that one department, the OGD, that was groomed to bureaucratic perfection by Kim Jong-il.

    ‘When he was alive, he was in practical sense heading the department. Kim Jong-un is not. It serves him, but it more serves the legacy of Kim Jong-il. Those don’t always coincide.’

    Recent reports say that the cheese-loving, heavy-smoking Kim Jong-un is suffering from gout, diabetes and high blood pressure – so the need for the OGD to do the day-to-day driving may become more of a necessity if he dies.

    Kim Jong-un does have a child – daughter Ju-ae, born in 2012 (according to North Korean ‘expert’ Dennis Rodman) – but the two-year-old may not be considered successor material.

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    interesting.
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    • #3
      Was this part of John Franco and Seth Rogens plan?

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      • #4
        I bet the old dudes got tired of Rodman as well.

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        • #5
          Throwing that dude over has gotta take one hell of a strong guy. What's he up to, like almost 300 pounds?

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          • #6
            I doubt it. If there was a coup, expect the #2 man that's visiting Seoul right now to smooth defect. Otherwise, he'd be in Pyongyang consolidating his position.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by YALE View Post
              I doubt it. If there was a coup, expect the #2 man that's visiting Seoul right now to smooth defect. Otherwise, he'd be in Pyongyang consolidating his position.
              Maybe its already happened and he's telling s korea wazz up

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              • #8
                From what I was hearing is that he broke his ankle so he's been nursing it but then again, who really knows?
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by John -- '02 HAWK View Post
                  Maybe its already happened and he's telling s korea wazz up
                  Nah. He'd still be in the DPRK.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by YALE View Post
                    Nah. He'd still be in the DPRK.
                    This. I have a feeling if there was a coup that would have that place on lockdown and sealed shut with zero travel or outside communications from anyone.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by LANTIRN View Post
                      This. I have a feeling if there was a coup that would have that place on lockdown and sealed shut with zero travel or outside communications from anyone.
                      I thought that was status quo anyway?
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                      • #12
                        I'm not so sure about the validity of this. They worship the Kim's like gods on earth.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Baron Von Crowder View Post
                          I thought that was status quo anyway?
                          Yes except for certain dignitaries like a few ambassadors. I would think of a coup was going on even they would not be allowed out and there would be an exterior media blackout. As it is they normally do communicate outside of the country on occasion. Historically if anything big goes on they shut it all down.
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by LANTIRN View Post
                            Yes except for certain dignitaries like a few ambassadors. I would think of a coup was going on even they would not be allowed out and there would be an exterior media blackout. As it is they normally do communicate outside of the country on occasion. Historically if anything big goes on they shut it all down.
                            That is not true. They allow organized tourist groups.

                            Edit: Just noticed you may have been talking about travel out of DPRK.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by NoClassic View Post
                              That is not true. They allow organized tourist groups.

                              Edit: Just noticed you may have been talking about travel out of DPRK.
                              Yes, travel out. Though you bring up a good point, if there was a coup or change of leadership due to death they would have locked down tourism as well I would think. Find the answer to the tour statuses and it might point in the right direction
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