Muslims

[SlowLX]

There IS a difference. Killing a bunch of people for not believing in the same God someone else doesn't is simply just hate... every definition of hate you can think of. Now, bombing the abortion clinic destroys the means of conducting the killings and terminates the threats (the people who conduct them) for the sake of the children that are killed there that do not have a say about the termination of their life and cannot defend themselves. I'm not supporting them bombing the clinic, just showing you the difference that you obviously cannot see. Personally, I think there are better ways as well, but trying to go through legislative means is not the answer either since there are too many people itching to justify this act. Just because our government votes it into law, doesn't mean it's right.

You're STILL justifying murder in the name of Jesus. Eric Rudolph, the guy in NC, the Army of God; they all HATE those who refuse to follow the tenets of Christianity. It is very much the same kind of hate Dennis.

[talisman]

There IS a difference. Killing a bunch of people for not believing in the same God someone else doesn't is simply just hate... every definition of hate you can think of. Now, bombing the abortion clinic destroys the means of conducting the killings and terminates the threats (the people who conduct them) for the sake of the children that are killed there that do not have a say about the termination of their life and cannot defend themselves. I'm not supporting them bombing the clinic, just showing you the difference that you obviously cannot see. Personally, I think there are better ways as well, but trying to go through legislative means is not the answer either since there are too many people itching to justify this act. Just because our government votes it into law, doesn't mean it's right.

Look at the responses in this thread. The muslims can reverse it and say the same thing. All the other religions hate them, so they are acting in their own self preservation. I don't agree with that, or your point(that I know you don't agree with, just saying), I'm just pointing out that it isn't hard to justify doing horrible things for the sake of purported self well being. Where does that justification end?

[bubbaearl]

sooner or later it's gonna be "cowboys and muslims "

[Hobie]

There IS a difference. Killing a bunch of people for not believing in the same God someone else doesn't is simply just hate... every definition of hate you can think of. Now, bombing the abortion clinic destroys the means of conducting the killings and terminates the threats (the people who conduct them) for the sake of the children that are killed there that do not have a say about the termination of their life and cannot defend themselves. I'm not supporting them bombing the clinic, just showing you the difference that you obviously cannot see. Personally, I think there are better ways as well, but trying to go through legislative means is not the answer either since there are too many people itching to justify this act. Just because our government votes it into law, doesn't mean it's right.

Terrorism by a Christian is the same as terrorism by anyone else and is always justified in the eyes of the terrorist. You are using religion to justify murder as are they. Same shit, different asshole.

[The King]

The powers that be just need a boogeyman to scare the masses. Today's islamic extremist is yesterdays communist and last weeks anarchist.

Our own gov't spending will topple this nation long before any outside threat.

You're equating today's Islamic terrorist with yesterday's communist? Were you even born yet during the Cold War? The threat tenuously held in check by mutally assured destruction was far worse than any threat from today's terrorist, at least so far.

[Hobie]

From Voyager I, this world is a tiny dot among the cosmos.



That little dot is the place where every person who ever came before us has existed, it's where every ruler and nation has risen and fallen. It's so small and insignificant in the grand scheme of things and it's pathetic that we can't keep from trying to fuck each other.

[talisman]

You're equating today's Islamic terrorist with yesterday's communist? Were you even born yet during the Cold War? The threat tenuously held in check by mutally assured destruction was far worse than any threat from today's terrorist, at least so far.

Bigger or lesser threat aside, it doesn't change the fact that we constantly have some "evil" that is used as policy justification to keep us "safe." Same shit, different year, regardless of the realistic scope of the perceived threat.

[Hobie]

You're equating today's Islamic terrorist with yesterday's communist? Were you even born yet during the Cold War? The threat tenuously held in check by mutally assured destruction was far worse than any threat from today's terrorist, at least so far.

In order for me to have not been alive during the Cold War I would have to have joined dfwstangs at the age of 10 or younger.

I'm talking about the Red Scare ~1919, McCarthyism/red scare2 post WWII, in terms of the paranoia spread in this country about the communists as well as the anarchists that predated the 1st red scare. That fear is used for control.

It's funny how the fear of a world take over by each side was nearly enough to put an end to humanity all together.

Also amusing that the spread of communism and the establishment of the People's Republic of China was such a big deal, but we now support China financially by manufacturing all the products sold here there and they buy up all our debt. Without them we would be fucked, comical.

The Soviets went broke fighting a war in Afghanistan for 10 years, lets hope we don't suffer the same fate.

[bubbaearl]

does anybody really think we wont have to blow iran to hell and gone sooner or later ? there is no alternative with these people .

[Denny]

You're STILL justifying murder in the name of Jesus. Eric Rudolph, the guy in NC, the Army of God; they all HATE those who refuse to follow the tenets of Christianity. It is very much the same kind of hate Dennis.

Look at the responses in this thread. The muslims can reverse it and say the same thing. All the other religions hate them, so they are acting in their own self preservation. I don't agree with that, or your point(that I know you don't agree with, just saying), I'm just pointing out that it isn't hard to justify doing horrible things for the sake of purported self well being. Where does that justification end?

Terrorism by a Christian is the same as terrorism by anyone else and is always justified in the eyes of the terrorist. You are using religion to justify murder as are they. Same shit, different asshole.

Defending the lives of helpless babies isn't the same as killing someone just for worshiping another God. I know you guys have to just be playing davil's advocate because none of you are that retarded to make that comparison.

[Blakeski]

Wow turned into a bunch of arguements! LOL I think my poll has spoke for it's self.

[The King]

Wow turned into a bunch of arguements! LOL I think my poll has spoke for it's self.

This poll needed another option, which is why I didn't vote in it.

Muslims...With or Againest
[ ]With them
[ ]Can't stand them
[X]Tolerant of them
[ ]Evil Jose is Muslim

[AnthonyS]

This poll needed another option, which is why I didn't vote in it.

Muslims...With or Againest
[ ]With them
[ ]Can't stand them
[X]Tolerant of them
[ ]Evil Jose is Muslim

They won't ever be tolerant of you, so you've chosen a losing proposition.

[Blakeski]

This poll needed another option, which is why I didn't vote in it.

Muslims...With or Againest
[ ]With them
[ ]Can't stand them
[X]Tolerant of them
[ ]Evil Jose is Muslim

I don't want to read through all the posts again, but weren't you raised a Baptist and turned Agnostic?

[Baba Ganoush]

I don't want to read through all the posts again, but weren't you raised a Baptist and turned Agnostic?

No that was me.

AnthonyS is right on, and even though I have no religious affiliation, they are still a threat to my way of life.