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  • Cruz Moves to Stop American ISIL Fighters from Reentering the U.S.

    The Senate could move to strip Americans fighting alongside Islamic State of Iraq and Levant (ISIL or ISIS) of their U.S. citizenship under a new bill set to be introduced next week by Sen. Ted Cruz (R., Texas), according to a source close to the senator’s office.

    With intelligence reports indicating that up to 100 Americans could be fighting with ISIL and similar terror groups in the Middle East, Cruz and other lawmakers have warned that current U.S. regulations do not prevent these American passport holders from slipping back into the United States, where they would pose a significant terror risk.

    Cruz intends to file the Expatriate Terrorist Act (E.T.A.) on Monday when the Senate is called back into session following its summer recess, according to the Cruz source.

    The bill would effectively strip those Americans proved to be fighting alongside ISIL of their U.S. citizenship and block them from reentering the country. The legislation resembles a similar House bill by Rep. Frank Wolf (R., Va.) that also seeks to stem the flow of American ISIL fighters back into the country.

    Any U.S. citizen who would travel to Syria and Iraq to fight alongside ISIL is repudiating their rights and citizenship under U.S. law, Cruz told the Washington Free Beacon in a statement.

    “Americans who choose to go to Syria or Iraq to fight with vicious ISIS terrorists are party to a terrorist organization committing horrific acts of violence, including beheading innocent American journalists who they have captured,” Cruz said. “There can be no clearer renunciation of their citizenship in the United States, and we need to do everything we can to preempt any attempt on their part to re-enter our country and carry out further attacks on American civilians.”

    The E.T.A. would tighten and update existing regulations by which a U.S. citizen abandons their citizenship, according to a preview of the bill.

    The Cruz bill amends this statute to include those who become a member of, fight for, or provide material support to a designated foreign terrorist organization, particularly ones attempting to wage terror attacks on the United States and its assets.

    U.S. authorities would have to provide evidence proving a U.S. citizen has fought with ISIL.

    “Provided the requirements of due process are observed, if a U.S. Citizen undertakes these acts with the intent of supplanting his U.S. Citizenship with loyalty to a terrorist organization, that person can be deemed to have forfeited their right to be a United States citizen and return to the United States,” according to a readout of Cruz’s new bill.

    Secretary of Defense Chuck Hagel said earlier this week that up to 100 Americans are known to be fighting alongside ISIL in the Middle East. The Pentagon later clarified that only about a dozen Americans are fighting with the group in Syria, while about 100 U.S. citizens are in the region fighting with other terror groups.

    Some congressional insiders working on the issue of American fighters abroad have warned that it could be very tough for U.S. authorities to prove their cases against these suspected militants upon their return to America.

    It is “completely unrealistic” that the FBI and other U.S. intelligence sources have the ability to fully track and compile evidence on these individuals, one senior aide told the Free Beacon earlier this week.

    “Think of all the FBI resources needed to follow each suspect once they return to the U.S.,” the source said. “Countless hours of agent time diverted just to piece together what they were doing over there and how much of a threat they pose back home. Why wouldn’t we try to preemptively address it instead?”

    The House bill by Wolf seeks to do exactly this.

    Like Cruz’s legislation, the House measure aims to stop American jihadists from using their passports to return to America.

    Additionally, Wolf’s measure would imprison for up to 20 years any Americans who travel to Syria or other radical hotbeds and severely restrict movement to such areas.

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    Thats riecht.

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    • #3
      You have a first amendment right to free association. Just put them on the no-fly list.
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      • #4
        Originally posted by YALE View Post
        You have a first amendment right to free association. Just put them on the no-fly list.
        so it would be cool with you if back in ww2 somebody went and helped out the nazis, or the japanese, and fought and killed americans? And then wanted to come back home and live the the good life here in the states? Not only that they can get over there by other means and then get back. Im sure their "100" figure is just their standard cover lie to keep the uproar down. it is probably a lot higher
        WH

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Gasser64 View Post
          so it would be cool with you if back in ww2 somebody went and helped out the nazis, or the japanese, and fought and killed americans? And then wanted to come back home and live the the good life here in the states? Not only that they can get over there by other means and then get back. Im sure their "100" figure is just their standard cover lie to keep the uproar down. it is probably a lot higher
          We can already arrest them as enemy combatants, and I'm pretty sure the guys that went over to Germany during WW2 faced treason charges. Excellent non-sequitor, though.
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          • #6
            Well your reply just sounded like you just wanted them to be put on the no fly list and then be left alone.

            Treason sounds fine, followed by hanging perhaps. Or identify and kill in combat

            Its a lot better treatment than the other side would give their defectors
            WH

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Gasser64 View Post
              Well your reply just sounded like you just wanted them to be put on the no fly list and then be left alone.

              Treason sounds fine, followed by hanging perhaps. Or identify and kill in combat

              Its a lot better treatment than the other side would give their defectors
              I don't want to give anyone shit, and on that list is my civil liberties. Every time a law like this is proposed, it's always pointed conspicuously at regular citizens.
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              • #8
                I do not support this. Anytime the government decides it can strip citizenship for "providing material support" when our own government is handing ISIS these weapons, is laughable and ripe for abuse.
                I wear a Fez. Fez-es are cool

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                • #9
                  ISIS, not that Levant bullshit. Levant just sold me a dime bag off 8th Street.

                  Obama and his fucking diversionary tactics...

                  Anyway, if they have some solid evidence that they are supporting the enemy in any way. Lock them the hell out, BUT the proof better be there. This kind of accusation wouldn't make it to any formal trial. Proof or they can return, but watched like hawks and/or interrogated.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Forever_frost View Post
                    I do not support this. Anytime the government decides it can strip citizenship for "providing material support" when our own government is handing ISIS these weapons, is laughable and ripe for abuse.
                    File a lawsuit against the govt.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Gasser64 View Post
                      so it would be cool with you if back in ww2 somebody went and helped out the nazis, or the japanese, and fought and killed americans? And then wanted to come back home and live the the good life here in the states? Not only that they can get over there by other means and then get back. Im sure their "100" figure is just their standard cover lie to keep the uproar down. it is probably a lot higher
                      You do realize that there were thousands of American soldiers in Nazi concentration camps that were forced to build underground bunkers/hangers for nazi military equipment, and if I recall correctly the US dropped war crime charges against a few of the nazis that ran the camp in trade for information.

                      They killed American troops and we let them go to die a free life, in Germany of course.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by 91CoupeMike View Post
                        You do realize that there were thousands of American soldiers in Nazi concentration camps that were forced to build underground bunkers/hangers for nazi military equipment, and if I recall correctly the US dropped war crime charges against a few of the nazis that ran the camp in trade for information.

                        They killed American troops and we let them go to die a free life, in Germany of course.
                        Being forced to build infrastructure while in a prisoner of war camp is way different dip shit.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by matts5.0 View Post
                          Being forced to build infrastructure while in a prisoner of war camp is way different dip shit.
                          He's talking about the German guards.
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by YALE View Post
                            He's talking about the German guards.
                            Yes.

                            Point being I don't think the government gives a damn when people attack out troops if they have "valuable" information. Imagine how those POWs felt knowing the men who turned their life into living hell were just let go free while they live with the torment. It's fucked.

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                            • #15
                              We also took the best minds in the Nazi structure and brought them here and never charged them with anything. I was reading that the guy who ran their medical experimentation was offered immunity and a new life if he handed us the research he had done.
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