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    Get ready for it to go UP even more!! Suckers!

    Californians already pay the nation's second highest gas tax at 68 cents a gallon -- and now it will go up again in January to pay for a first-in-the-nation climate change law.

    "I didn't know that," said Los Angeles motorist Tyler Rich. "It's ridiculous."

    "I think it’s terrible," added Lupe Sanchez, pumping $4.09-a-gallon gas at a Chevron near Santa Monica. "The economy, the way it is right now with jobs and everything, it's just crazy."

    When gas prices go up, motorists typically blame oil companies, Arab sheiks and Wall Street speculators. This time they can blame Sacramento and former Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger for passing a bill requiring California to reduce carbon emissions to 1990 levels by 2020.

    The tax on carbon already raised about $1 billion in revenue by requiring manufacturers and utilities to buy credits for each ton of carbon emitted into the atmosphere. At the beginning of next year, the law will also apply to oil and gas. Refiners and distributors say they will pass another $2 billion in costs on - largely to consumers.

    "Ultimately it hurts the consumer," said California Independent Oil and Marketing Association spokesman Mike Rohrer. "It is going to affect anyone who has a vehicle. Be it a motorist that is commuting back and forth to work or a trucker just moving goods throughout the state of California, the cost is immediately going to increase because whatever we have to pay for in carbon credits ultimately we have to pass through to the consumer."

    Estimates of the cost of the tax vary. The California Air Resources Board, the Golden State's premier anti-pollution agency, predicts the new tax will raise gasoline prices from 20 cents to $1.30 per gallon. A prominent state senator who helped author the bill estimated the cost at 40 cents a gallon. Environmental activists downplay the cost, but hail the impact.

    "We're going to now tackle probably 40 percent of greenhouse gas emissions in the state that are emitted mostly through transportation - oil and gas use," said Climate Resolve Executive Director Jonathan Parfrey.

    The cost of the climate change law never was spelled out in the original bill in 2010, which did not even include transportation fuels.But any meaningful climate change law would have to address driving, the state's largest single source of pollution. By raising the price, officials hope to reduce the number of miles driven as consumers are forced to consider options.

    "We have to effect a transition away from the polluting of fuels that we currently have," said Parfrey. "We have to pay a little extra so that we're making sure that our energy in the future is not going to be spoiled."

    Not everyone is sold on the idea. Europe tried a cap and trade program in the last decade and pollution levels still increased dramatically.

    California is the only state to extend the idea to gasoline. By the end of the decade, the state is expected to collect $5 billion in revenue by charging businesses and consumers for the right to pollute. So far the state collected $833 billion by selling 'carbon credits' to polluters.

    "They have generated close to a billion dollars in revenue just from the carbon tax credit auctions that have been going on for over a year. Where has that money gone?" asked Rohrer.

    "And why do we have to tax the consumer to make this happen for clean air? Everyone is for clean air but let’s not hurt the consumer in the process and not giving them a full explanation of how this exactly works and why."

    Last week California sold all of the nearly 22.5 million carbon credits it offered this year. Revenue from the auction is deposited into California's greenhouse gas reduction account. There it is used not just to reduce emissions or the cost of pollution controls for business, but also to build low-income housing near mass-transit hubs and support construction of the state's high-speed rail project.

    Critics claim the money could be better spent to directly reduce emissions from industrial sources. Instead, some say the fund acts more like a pot of money for state politicians to build projects in their district for residents who may or my not use the transportation alternatives.
    "Self-government won't work without self-discipline." - Paul Harvey

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    Wonderful. As if gas isn't already costing me out the ass....


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    • #3
      Commifornia!

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      • #4
        hahaha those fucking fools
        "When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic." -Benjamin Franklin
        "A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover that they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury." -Alexander Fraser Tytler

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        • #5
          Fuck 'em. That entire state will be Mad Max/Detroit in about 10 years.

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          • #6
            Rename it CaliFrance


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            • #7
              Originally posted by SMKR View Post
              Rename it CaliFrance


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              CaliMexance?

              GOV. JERRY BROWN TO MEXICAN ILLEGALS: 'YOU'RE ALL WELCOME IN CALIFORNIA'

              On Monday evening, California Governor Jerry Brown said all Mexicans, including illegal immigrants, are welcome in California.
              According to the Los Angeles Times, while introducing Mexican President Enrique Peña Nieto, who said America is "the other Mexico," Brown "spoke about the interwoven histories of Mexico and California." He "nodded to the immigrants in the room, saying it didn't matter if they had permission to be in the United States."
              "You're all welcome in California," Brown reportedly said.

              Brown has made California a sanctuary state by signing the Trust Act, giving driver's licenses to illegal immigrants. He has also expanded financial aid to illegal immigrants by signing the California DREAM Act. Peña Nieto reportedly "thanked state officials for embracing foreigners, citing measures that extend state benefits to immigrants."
              Even during the border crisis, Brown reportedly vowed "to find ways to shorten long waits at the Tijuana-San Diego international border crossing," saying, "If we can put a man on the moon, we can put a man from Mexico to California in 20 minutes."
              In 2012, 28% of Californians were born outside the United States, according to The New York Times. Hispanic voters reportedly "made up 19.2% of California voters" in 2010. And according to Pew Research, Latinos make up nearly 40% of the state's population and have made California "only the second state, behind New Mexico, where whites are not the majority and Latinos are the plurality."
              Even though the University of California has admitted a record number of Hispanics, the Latino Caucus has vowed to make affirmative action and bilingual education top legislative priorities.
              Peña Nieto is scheduled to address the California State Legislature in Sacramento on Tuesday.
              On Monday evening, California Governor Jerry Brown said all Mexicans, including illegal immigrants, are welcome in California.
              "Self-government won't work without self-discipline." - Paul Harvey

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              • #8
                I'm not going to kill myself, but I'm definitely going to dare the world to do it for me..
                http://www.truthcontest.com/entries/...iversal-truth/

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                • #9
                  California deserves this, they voted these clowns in now they can deal with them. Go hug a tree you liberal scumbags!

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                  • #10
                    The only shitty thing is if their state takes a dive and everyone leaves, their idiotic policies and politics come with them to their new home. Last thing we need in places like Texas is more liberal fucks.

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                    • #11
                      Shit they will all move to Austin. The last thing this State needs is more people from there. It is already getting out of hand.
                      Half of history is hiding the past.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by lowthreeohz View Post
                        The only shitty thing is if their state takes a dive and everyone leaves, their idiotic policies and politics come with them to their new home. Last thing we need in places like Texas is more liberal fucks.
                        It's already happening.
                        Originally posted by MR EDD
                        U defend him who use's racial slurs like hes drinking water.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by ceyko View Post
                          It's already happening.
                          Oh i know, but everyone wishes so much ill will on cali and it's going to happen and bite us all in the ass too. Oregon started experiencing this years ago, POS cali families moving up from their 300k shithole home, buying something in a nice neighborhood, and fucking it all up. then voting in stupid ass laws and taxes, bringing their gang affiliations, drug crimes, etc

                          There used to be bumper stickers all over that said "Save Oregon - Nuke California". That is a generally well accepted mindset in the PNW.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by lowthreeohz View Post
                            Oh i know, but everyone wishes so much ill will on cali and it's going to happen and bite us all in the ass too. Oregon started experiencing this years ago, POS cali families moving up from their 300k shithole home, buying something in a nice neighborhood, and fucking it all up. then voting in stupid ass laws and taxes, bringing their gang affiliations, drug crimes, etc

                            There used to be bumper stickers all over that said "Save Oregon - Nuke California". That is a generally well accepted mindset in the PNW.
                            heh, sort of like that Presidents of the United States.... F*** California song?
                            Originally posted by MR EDD
                            U defend him who use's racial slurs like hes drinking water.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by lowthreeohz View Post
                              Oh i know, but everyone wishes so much ill will on cali and it's going to happen and bite us all in the ass too. Oregon started experiencing this years ago, POS cali families moving up from their 300k shithole home, buying something in a nice neighborhood, and fucking it all up. then voting in stupid ass laws and taxes, bringing their gang affiliations, drug crimes, etc

                              There used to be bumper stickers all over that said "Save Oregon - Nuke California". That is a generally well accepted mindset in the PNW.
                              My dad's side of the family was always up in OR / WA and my dad moved back there in around 1983 when my parents divorced. That's all I would hear about every summer when I would be up there visiting (those damn Californian's ruining everything).

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