Dialog on the Israeli-Palestinian Conflict

[GhostTX]

So much for the 3 day cease-fire:

... hours after a three-day cease-fire on the Gaza strip that began Friday unraveled with both Israel and Hamas leveling accusations of violating the truce.

The suspected kidnapping occurred shortly after a heavy exchange of gunfire erupted in the southern Gaza town of Rafah. Militants reportedly emerged from a tunnel shaft before a suicide bomber detonated himself, one senior Israel Defense Forces source told The Jerusalem Post.
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http://www.foxnews.com/world/2014/08/01/gaza-crisis-humanitarian-cease-fire-underway/

[Broncojohnny]

I find it hilarious that the moderate Arab countries don't even support Hamas any more. Funny how they got a taste of the terrorism that Israel has put up with for decades and now don't like it.

[Chas_svo]

I remember seeing the Palestinians celebrating Sep 11. They lost all sympathy forever.

[bcoop]

If anyone has time to kill, look up "Lies An filth" on Facebook, and read the most recent post. The page is a business page for a guy I went to school with, it is his t shirt company. Once the one retard started in with conspiracy theories, I had to stop reading. What is scary, is that these people vote.

[91CoupeMike]

They wouldn't need to go anywhere if they weren't governed by a terrorist organization.

I agree, but that's not fair to the civilians. Put that shoe on the other foot. People don't deserve to die because their leaders are morons, look at America, we have morons in office, should we die?

They have 1.8 million people in a area 1/5 the size of LA, where exactly are the women and children suppose to go? Israel tells them to go to gaza city for safety, then they bomb gaza city. Tells them to seek refuge at schools and hospitals, then they bomb them too.

Tells them to leave their house within 5 minutes, but to go where? Literally no safe zones for 1.8 million people. That place is packed like sardines with bombs designed to drop in crowds and rip your flesh off with darts.

Yeah fuck Hamas, but that's like going into North Korea if they decided to fuck with shit and go scorched earth on people that couldn't leave even if they wanted too, or at least with some kind of smuggling, you can't hold people accountable when they didn't have a say in the matter, I doubt %100 of the people wanted to fuck with Israel.

But from Israel's pov, the un has bombs cached in schools and hospitals.. Some great UN idea that was, supply the terrorist by putting shit in fucking schools thinking surely no one will bomb a school.. We Israel doesn't fuck around and doesn't give a shit that Hamas forces women and children on the roof tops of buildings they are shooting out of..

Don't be an idiot to the situation, take of your bias blinders.

[Craizie]

I agree, but that's not fair to the civilians. Put that shoe on the other foot. People don't deserve to die because their leaders are morons, look at America, we have morons in office, should we die?

They have 1.8 million people in a area 1/5 the size of LA, where exactly are the women and children suppose to go? Israel tells them to go to gaza city for safety, then they bomb gaza city. Tells them to seek refuge at schools and hospitals, then they bomb them too.

Tells them to leave their house within 5 minutes, but to go where? Literally no safe zones for 1.8 million people. That place is packed like sardines with bombs designed to drop in crowds and rip your flesh off with darts.

Yeah fuck Hamas, but that's like going into North Korea if they decided to fuck with shit and go scorched earth on people that couldn't leave even if they wanted too, or at least with some kind of smuggling, you can't hold people accountable when they didn't have a say in the matter, I doubt %100 of the people wanted to fuck with Israel.

But from Israel's pov, the un has bombs cached in schools and hospitals.. Some great UN idea that was, supply the terrorist by putting shit in fucking schools thinking surely no one will bomb a school.. We Israel doesn't fuck around and doesn't give a shit that Hamas forces women and children on the roof tops of buildings they are shooting out of..

Don't be an idiot to the situation, take of your bias blinders.

So what do you propose Israel do?

[sc281]

I agree, but that's not fair to the civilians. Put that shoe on the other foot. People don't deserve to die because their leaders are morons, look at America, we have morons in office, should we die?

They have 1.8 million people in a area 1/5 the size of LA, where exactly are the women and children suppose to go? Israel tells them to go to gaza city for safety, then they bomb gaza city. Tells them to seek refuge at schools and hospitals, then they bomb them too.

Tells them to leave their house within 5 minutes, but to go where? Literally no safe zones for 1.8 million people. That place is packed like sardines with bombs designed to drop in crowds and rip your flesh off with darts.

Yeah fuck Hamas, but that's like going into North Korea if they decided to fuck with shit and go scorched earth on people that couldn't leave even if they wanted too, or at least with some kind of smuggling, you can't hold people accountable when they didn't have a say in the matter, I doubt %100 of the people wanted to fuck with Israel.

But from Israel's pov, the un has bombs cached in schools and hospitals.. Some great UN idea that was, supply the terrorist by putting shit in fucking schools thinking surely no one will bomb a school..

We Israel doesn't fuck around and doesn't give a shit that Hamas forces women and children on the roof tops of buildings they are shooting out of..

Don't be an idiot to the situation, take of your bias blinders.

1st bold: They fucking voted for them. It's not like a dictator took power. The people fucking gave it to them. They have the govt they want, doing what they want it to do. There are reports of palis that regret having hamas, but they aren't doing shit about.If the populace wanted the PLO or fatah, they'd be fighting to put them in. Although both if those want desth to jews and israel's destruction too.

Just givin the people what they want, i suppose. A selection of flavors for the discerning jew killer.

Are there palis who want peace? I'm sure there are. How many are fighting for it? None.

2nd bold: Israelis bomb Gaza city because rockets are fired from gaza city. This isn't tag where home base is a safe zone. This is war, and Israel is responding to attack. Civilian casualties are part of it.

As for the homes and hospitals, look up video footage of those bombings. Militants store their weapons in schools, hospitals, mosques, and citizens homes for precisely the reason you'd think. "Oh, they can't destroy this weapons cache, it's at a school, and there's people there.

Israel gives plenty of warning when they bomb a sensitive target. What do the "innocent people" do? They fucking run INTO the building that's going to be leveled. Hamas routinely has a shitload of people in and around the building anyway, just in case they won't willingly be blown up. Their reasoning? It will either dissuade atrack or it will be good politics to trot the dead bodies in front of a camera and curse the eeeevil jews, knowing most braindead un and media will eat the shit up.

3rd: Not the same situation. Hamas was voted in. North korea is a dictatorship. Although the outcome unfortunately would likely be the same because one population is brainwashed and the other has blind devotion to whatever shitfuck Imam tells them their religion is supposed to be.
Unlike the North Koreansthough, who have literally NO access to information other than kim jong un's opinion and will fight because they don't know better, the palis have access to outside info, and CHOOSE to fight.

4th bold: Eggfuckingzachary my point. When shit is stored in schools, especially by an organization that is supposed to be neutral and benevolent, you can understand Israel's reasoning for targeting these places, no?


5th bold: I think you are overstating this here. You've got to be a cold mother fucker to see a baby, kill it, and not care. You also have to be a cold motherfucker to know a place is about to get blown up, and grab your son/daughter and run to the roof to matyr you both.

There's gun camera footage of israeli pilots calling off strikes on legit targets because there are kids present. These aren't heartless motherfuckers, man. Unfortunately, these pilots only reinforce the idea that flooding hamas weapons caches with babies, women, and 6 year olds is sound tactics.

There's only one side in this conflict that indiscriminately kills innocents, women, and children and the populace dances in the street after doing so? Can you tell me which side that is?

The sad thing to me is if israel could kill every Hamas TODAY, someone else will step into their shoes TOMORROW. This war will probably never end. Israel, unfortunately, is on death ground and has no choice but to fight or die. In the end, they will likely do both.



Sidebar: The only light at the end of this tunnel is the recent unwillingness of the "moderate" arab counries (saudi, UAE, jordan, egypt) to help hamas. This COULD BE a trend where the more moderate, pro western countries are getting tired of the islamist radicals like the muslim brotherhood, hamas, isis, al quaida, etc and are trying to do something about it. Don't hold your breath though.

[Denny]

I agree, but that's not fair to the civilians. Put that shoe on the other foot. People don't deserve to die because their leaders are morons, look at America, we have morons in office, should we die?

They have 1.8 million people in a area 1/5 the size of LA, where exactly are the women and children suppose to go? Israel tells them to go to gaza city for safety, then they bomb gaza city. Tells them to seek refuge at schools and hospitals, then they bomb them too.

Tells them to leave their house within 5 minutes, but to go where? Literally no safe zones for 1.8 million people. That place is packed like sardines with bombs designed to drop in crowds and rip your flesh off with darts.

Yeah fuck Hamas, but that's like going into North Korea if they decided to fuck with shit and go scorched earth on people that couldn't leave even if they wanted too, or at least with some kind of smuggling, you can't hold people accountable when they didn't have a say in the matter, I doubt %100 of the people wanted to fuck with Israel.

But from Israel's pov, the un has bombs cached in schools and hospitals.. Some great UN idea that was, supply the terrorist by putting shit in fucking schools thinking surely no one will bomb a school.. We Israel doesn't fuck around and doesn't give a shit that Hamas forces women and children on the roof tops of buildings they are shooting out of..

Don't be an idiot to the situation, take of your bias blinders.

Are you really telling people not to be idiots?! Your posts on this matter scream stupidity!

Why don't you open a book and look at what the poor little Palestinians can do for themselves to get Gaza out of this mess (hint: it's not blaming Israel for thrown three punches in retaliation of one of theirs).


I'll even help you start your research. Look up how the Italians overran Mussolini and his regime during WWII. It wasn't the allies that sealed that deal.

BTW, Israel has historically and still to this day shown great restraint and tolerance to its neighbors. Do you honestly think Gaza would last a full day under a real assault?

[Forever_frost]

I'm waiting for Israel to take off the kid gloves and decide to end this.

[sc281]

I'm waiting for Israel to take off the kid gloves and decide to end this.

It might be the perfect time as it seems they might not have to deal with fallout from egypt, saudi, uae, and jordan if their silence can be considered tacit approval.

[Broncojohnny]

People don't deserve to die because their leaders are morons, look at America, we have morons in office, should we die?

If our leaders were shooting rockets at another sovereign nation in an attempt to randomly kill people then, yes, we deserve to die as collateral damage. We have a duty to remove them from power. If we don't then we should suffer the consequences.

[bubbaearl]

the question i never see asked and damn sure not answered is how many jews would be dead if not for the iron dome ? 3k rockets . shame on isreal for being able to defend themselves . time for this shit to end once and for all .

[lowthreeohz]

3k? Try 7.

[BoostedD1]

Bible prophesy unfolds as we speak.

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Bible prophesy unfolds as we speak.