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  • Obamacare dealt "crippling blow."

    I'm not qualified to comment on the strength of that assertion, but the sooner this shit is carried away with the better, and since the SC fucked us all over, it is going to have to be taken apart piece by piece.


    A top federal appeals court dealt a crippling blow the Affordable Care Act Tuesday. The three-judge panel in the District of Columbia ruled that the billions of dollars of federal government subsidies given to the states to be used for the HealthCare.gov exchanges are illegal.

    The reasoning of Halbig v. Burwell: It is legal to buy insurance in an Obamacare exchange run by an individual state or the District of Columbia — not on the federally run exchange HealthCare.gov, CNBC reports.

    Obamacare “hinges crucially on the subsidies. The primary purpose of the law was to extend affordable health coverage to millions of Americans; the two main ways the law achieves this is through the Medicaid expansion and through subsidized coverage on the insurance exchanges,” Vox explains.
    The Obama Administration has insisted from the outset that the Affordable Care Act will be, well, affordable, and the federal subsidies were a key cog in the endeavor.

    It’s likely that should these subsidies be withdrawn, many who receive them will no longer be covered.

    A Robert Wood Johnson Foundation analysis finds that this decision “could affect over 7.3 million people expected to receive federal subsidies in 2016.”
    “[HealthCare.gov] serves residents of the 36 states that did not create their own health insurance marketplace. About 4.7 million people, or 86 percent of all HealthCare.gov enrollees, qualified for a subsidy to offset the cost of their coverage this year because they had low or moderate incomes,” CNBC explains.

    The real sticking point is that the Obamacare legal language does not explicitly say whether subsidies can be given to those who buy from Healthcare.gov, but it is explicit that subsidies can be given to the state exchanges.

    “Today’s decision is yet another blow to the President’s disastrous health care law,” Rep. Diane Black (R-Tenn.) said in a statement. “If this decision holds, it means that the Obama Administration has been doling out billions of dollars in taxpayer subsidies without the proper statutory authority. And to make matters worse, this means that the President has been misrepresenting the true costs of health coverage to millions of American families.”

    - See more at: http://rare.us/story/the-courts-just....XRA2DxIs.dpuf



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    apparently the healthcare.gov website is not HIPAA compliant, and the government says it doesnt have to be with some fast-talk-legal-garbage.

    Abner Weintraub, president of the HIPAA Group, a HIPAA consultant, said that the government is using a loophole and wordplay to avoid complying with the regulations.

    "All health insurers' health plans, their systems website and business operations, all are utterly, absolutely required to be compliant with HIPAA," Weintraub said to CRN. "So how is it that health insurance is the central and sole focus of the Affordable Care Act website, healthcare.gov, and yet it is not required to be compliant with HIPAA. It's absolute B.S."
    Even though the Obamacare site is one of the largest healthcare-related sites in the country, it is not HIPAA compliant, the Department of Health and Human Services told CRN.
    "If I asked people what they wanted, they would have said faster horses." - Henry Ford

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    • #3
      We have to pass it to know what's in it!

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      • #4
        Wake up ! If the subsidies are cut out, then those people will get for FREE! That was the plan all along.

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        • #5
          Judge Griffith was appointed by George W. Bush, Judge Randolph by George H.W. Bush and Judge Edwards (dissented and happens to be black) was appointed by Jimmy Carter.

          I'm sure it'll come up.

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          • #6
            From what I'm gathering, the law specifically says only the State exchange can have the subsidies and not the Federal. Supposedly, this was intentionally done in order to force states to make exchanges (and formally adapt Obamacare) or otherwise be painted as uncaring, not compassionate, etc. because people couldn't get the subsidies. Well, not all states made state exchanges and just let people use the Federal Exchange. Now we have the case we have now. The intent to "force" states to adapt, backfired.
            "Self-government won't work without self-discipline." - Paul Harvey

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            • #7
              Originally posted by BP View Post
              Judge Griffith was appointed by George W. Bush, Judge Randolph by George H.W. Bush and Judge Edwards (dissented and happens to be black) was appointed by Jimmy Carter.

              I'm sure it'll come up.
              It already has. And now they're saying the next court for review is made of 7 Dems and 4 Pubs, and it'll over turn this ruling. Which is crap. When judges start making decision based on party and not on law, we're no longer a nation of laws, just who's ever in power and how they read things.

              Hopefully, the judges will actually read the law and make the decision on the law...not on any supposed intent or what-should-have-been-done.
              "Self-government won't work without self-discipline." - Paul Harvey

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              • #8
                The next court is probably the SCOTUS which is about as close to 50/50 as you can get with Kennedy involved. It's a 5/9 conservative majority but the two most recent appointees are considerably more to the left than the other 5 are to the right.

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                • #9
                  This will be decided by the SC and none of it matters until we get to that level.
                  Originally posted by racrguy
                  What's your beef with NPR, because their listeners are typically more informed than others?
                  Originally posted by racrguy
                  Voting is a constitutional right, overthrowing the government isn't.

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                  • #10
                    It doesn't mean anything, Obama stacked the 4th district appellate court with judges. It's going to end up there on appeal, and it will be overturned. Remember how Harry Reid did the "nuclear" option? Well it was specifically to stack the appellate courts so if they are shot down by a federal court, they can win the appeal. Tyranny my friends, you're living it.
                    "When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic." -Benjamin Franklin
                    "A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover that they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury." -Alexander Fraser Tytler

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                    • #11
                      I agree until we get a new president we are stuck with obummer care.

                      Its not like healthcare costs are ever going down obomacare or not. I do prefer the option of what shitty plan i can afford though. Good news is my shoulder should be covered now. It was excluded due to a simple arthoscope procedure.

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                      • #12
                        His talking heads have already stated they will not adhere to the decision.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Sleeper View Post
                          I agree until we get a new president we are stuck with obummer care.

                          Its not like healthcare costs are ever going down obomacare or not. I do prefer the option of what shitty plan i can afford though. Good news is my shoulder should be covered now. It was excluded due to a simple arthoscope procedure.
                          You think Obama is the source of the problem? I lol'd

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                          • #14
                            He is deffenatly part of the problem. Not the whole problem but he does lead the ship.

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                            • #15
                              What makes you think that the aca will be repealed with a new president?

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