Malaysian 777 shot down over Ukraine - 295 dead

[talisman]

Remember its an urban enviroment where the weapons are ak47 with hardly any armor that can move up the streets. Noone wants to go thru towns that rebels control.

Obama shoulda offered some support or equipment.

Anyways I saw an article that russia already has the black box.

Yes, because backing Afghanistan against the Soviets ended up working out so well for us in the long run.

Support the middle east that we haven't gotten anything out and lost a whole ton or send a few special ops soilders to train the ukraine army... hmmm I think the soilders would prefer ukraine vs iraq anyday.

So you're saying what you really want is for us support Ukraine in about 30 years while getting nothing out of it, amirite?

[likeitfast55]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nort...umman_Guardian

Northrop Grumman Corp. (NOC:US) was accused in a whistle-blower lawsuit by a former employee of lying to the U.S. government about steps it took to develop a civilian airliner missile-defense system.

Northrop Grumman lied about its progress and failed to deliver a viable product after being paid more than $62 million for the third phase alone of a project the defense contractor once called the Guardian System, according to the complaint filed in 2009 by Leo Danielides, an Illinois resident.

U.S. District Judge Ruben Castillo in Chicago ordered the lawsuit unsealed yesterday after the government said in a Jan. 22 filing that it couldn’t decided whether to join the case because it hadn’t completed its investigation.

All of them are gone now. Our (AA) 767 had a few in testing. They are all decommissioned now.

http://fas.org/programs/ssp/asmp/documents/DHSMANPADSReport.pdf

[Strychnine]

All of them are gone now. Our (AA) 767 had a few in testing. They are all decommissioned now.

http://fas.org/programs/ssp/asmp/doc...PADSReport.pdf

Boooooooooo.

[diablo rojo]

Yes, because backing Afghanistan against the Soviets ended up working out so well for us in the long run.



So you're saying what you really want is for us support Ukraine in about 30 years while getting nothing out of it, amirite?

Fucking this!

[matts5.0]

I think it totally sucks people lost thier lifes, and there is no excuse for shooting down a civilian aircraft. but by no means should we jump up beat our chests and head to war with russia, nor should we send any troops, supplies, or any assests over there. this conflict is none of our business, we should keep out of it. but then again, im a racist isolationist, and I think we should mind our own damn business in most conflicts, maybe we should quit starting them too, hell I dunno.

[jw33]

We have to get involved in everything everywhere or the terrorist win you commie faggot. I mean I'm not going, but you better damn well sign your kids up to go and don't raise my fucking taxes.

[mk5.0]

I saw on the news that all Israeli airliners have chaff and flare systems.

[Scott Mc]

I think it totally sucks people lost thier lifes, and there is no excuse for shooting down a civilian aircraft. but by no means should we jump up beat our chests and head to war with russia, nor should we send any troops, supplies, or any assests over there. this conflict is none of our business, we should keep out of it. but then again, im a racist isolationist, and I think we should mind our own damn business in most conflicts, maybe we should quit starting them too, hell I dunno.

All this shit is lose lose. I am by far an expert, but all the shit going down in different corners of the world has me fearing world war. Honestly I like Putin but he is an asshole lol and I wonder what his future plans are. As for the Asian side of the shenanigans, I think they are bat shit crazy and are just waiting for a chance to fuck shit up. My biggest fear is if it does happen, America will be fucked with all the lazy useless fucks that reside here.

We have to get involved in everything everywhere or the terrorist win you commie faggot. I mean I'm not going, but you better damn well sign your kids up to go and don't raise my fucking taxes.

LMAO!

[Sean88gt]

Just got back in country today, and had no clue about this. Fucking horrible.

[Denny]

Just got back in country today, and had no clue about this. Fucking horrible.

Latina thighs covering your ears will do that to ya.

[03mustangdude]

Yes, because backing Afghanistan against the Soviets ended up working out so well for us in the long run.



So you're saying what you really want is for us support Ukraine in about 30 years while getting nothing out of it, amirite?

At the time getting involved against the soviets in Afghanistan is one of the reasons the soviet union collapsed. They were bleeding and wouldn't give up.

Support? No send in some spec ops to train the soilders behind the scenes and send a few of those military surplus tanks that are given away for free over here. Create a ally for cheap that will stop russia from going west.


Or do nothing and 30 years from now we will still be bankrupt.

[Sean88gt]

Latina thighs covering your ears will do that to ya.

Tica for me, and Tica for you!

[ZYouL8R]

Having a MWS designed for IR threats would have done jack shit in this situation.

[talisman]

At the time getting involved against the soviets in Afghanistan is one of the reasons the soviet union collapsed. They were bleeding and wouldn't give up.

Support? No send in some spec ops to train the soilders behind the scenes and send a few of those military surplus tanks that are given away for free over here. Create a ally for cheap that will stop russia from going west.


Or do nothing and 30 years from now we will still be bankrupt.

So, it was "at the time" yet resulted in us being involved in the Middle East in a way you don't approve of today, yet you would like to repeat history by giving Ukraine training and military supplies EXACTLY like we did the Afgans in the 80's? LOL

[03mustangdude]

So, it was "at the time" yet resulted in us being involved in the Middle East in a way you don't approve of today, yet you would like to repeat history by giving Ukraine training and military supplies EXACTLY like we did the Afgans in the 80's? LOL

afghans never wanted to become part of nato or the eu. The only reason this happened is they told russia to fuk off after years of being oppressed.