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  • Don't marry an Atheist.

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    (RNS) Brace yourself for family backlash if you plan to marry an atheist.

    A new Pew Research survey chiefly focused on political polarization also found Americans divided when someone in the family picks a nonbeliever to marry.

    Atheists are the most unwanted future relative, by far. Nearly half (49 percent) of Americans say they would be unhappy if a member of their immediate family picked an unbeliever for a spouse.

    Those most likely to say they’d be upset:

    * 73 percent of people who call themselves “consistently conservative.”
    * 64 percent of Protestants, including 77 percent of white non-Hispanic evangelical Protestants.
    * 59 percent among Republicans or those who leaned to the GOP, 18 points higher than unhappy Democrat or Democrat/leaning adults.
    * 55 percent of Roman Catholics

    By contrast, only 9 percent overall said they would be upset by the prospect of a relative wedding a “born again” Christian.

    Marriages between Democrats and Republicans were not nearly as divisive.

    The number of people who would be upset if a family member married someone of another political party was less than one in 10 overall. And the percentage was similarly low for marrying someone of another race or an immigrant born and raised in another country.

    Temperatures did rise a bit over gun ownership and over a lack of a college education.

    Overall, only 19 percent said they would be unhappy to have a gun owner in the family. But Democrats and those who leaned blue were more likely to be unhappy (26 percent) than those who favored the GOP (9 percent).

    The lack of a college degree in a potential in-law made 14 percent of respondents unhappy but there was little political or social difference among those who held that view. However, the more educated the survey respondent, the higher their disapproval of a diploma-less relative.

    “Clearly, an atheist is the least likely to be welcomed into a family,” said Jocelyn Kiley, senior researcher with the Pew Center for the People & the Press. Although 20 percent of Americans said they have no religious identity, “certainly religiosity matters in the United States.”

    The questions were part of a comprehensive look at polarization in U.S. society. The overall survey, conducted from January through March 2014, was of 10,013 people, but only about a third were asked the marriage questions. The margin of error for that portion of the survey is plus or minus 2 percentage points.

    Among the major overall findings was that Republicans and Democrats have become more ideologically rigid – and further apart — than ever before. They also hold more sharply negative views of each other than 20 years ago, said Kiley.

    This is the first time Pew asked these particular marriage questions so there’s no comparison to the past.



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    http://www.reddit.com/r/atheism showed me how truly annoying they can be.
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    • #3
      Originally posted by Magnus View Post
      http://www.reddit.com/r/atheism showed me how truly annoying they can be.
      This is akin to claiming that http://www.godhatesfags.com/ is evidence of how christians are.
      Scientists do not coddle ideas. They crash test them. They run them into a brick wall at 60 miles per hour and then examine the pieces.

      If the idea is sound, the pieces will be that of the wall.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Maddhattter View Post
        This is akin to claiming that http://www.godhatesfags.com/ is evidence of how christians are.
        No, it's not.

        Disclaimer: I'm not christian. Probably more atheist than anything.
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        • #5
          Originally posted by Magnus
          No, it's not.
          Yes, it is. Both cases are using a small, vocal subset's behavior to attempt to implicate the whole groups actions.

          Originally posted by Magnus
          Disclaimer: I'm not christian. Probably more atheist than anything.
          So? Whether you're christian or not doesn't change anything on this topic.
          Scientists do not coddle ideas. They crash test them. They run them into a brick wall at 60 miles per hour and then examine the pieces.

          If the idea is sound, the pieces will be that of the wall.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Maddhattter View Post
            Yes, it is. Both cases are using a small, vocal subset's behavior to attempt to implicate the whole groups actions.
            Right, small, vocal subculture. . . .

            2,080,885 subscribers, 1,423 online right now.
            Global website, vs some stupid hick church site.

            Very different.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by Magnus View Post
              Right, small, vocal subculture. . . .

              2,080,885 subscribers, 1,423 online right now.
              Global website, vs some stupid hick church site.

              Very different.
              All you've done here is demonstrate that you don't understand how Reddit works. Seeing as /a/atheism has been a default subscribed subreddit for a while, that means every new account is listed as a subscriber by default. You have to manually remove it from your subscriptions to no longer be counted as a subscriber, something most people never do.

              Both /r/atheism and Westboro Baptist Church both only represent a small, vocal part of their respective communities. However, you're attempt at using /r/atheism to represent the atheist community as a whole is still as founded as using the Westboro Baptist Church to represent christianity as a whole.
              Scientists do not coddle ideas. They crash test them. They run them into a brick wall at 60 miles per hour and then examine the pieces.

              If the idea is sound, the pieces will be that of the wall.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Maddhattter View Post
                All you've done here is demonstrate that you don't understand how Reddit works. Seeing as /a/atheism has been a default subscribed subreddit for a while, that means every new account is listed as a subscriber by default. You have to manually remove it from your subscriptions to no longer be counted as a subscriber, something most people never do.

                Both /r/atheism and Westboro Baptist Church both only represent a small, vocal part of their respective communities. However, you're attempt at using /r/atheism to represent the atheist community as a whole is still as founded as using the Westboro Baptist Church to represent christianity as a whole.
                It is not a default subreddit anymore.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Magnus View Post
                  It is not a default subreddit anymore.
                  I missed that happening. However, upon looking into it, you're right. It is a default subreddit no longer.

                  That, however, doesn't change the fact that it was for 2 years. In fact, according to Reddit, in 2011 alone (the year that r/atheism became a default subreddit) they saw an increase of 200+% of unique page views. That put their number around 2 billion unique page views, by their own reports. So, during that time, any of those views that became accounts were automatically added to r/atheism as a subscriber.

                  When r/atheism was removed from being a default they stated in their announcement blog post "if you already have an account and you've ever subscribed to or unsubscribed from any subreddit you won’t notice any difference from these changes". So, again, anyone who created an account during that time, and hasn't manually gone in and removed themselves, is still listed as a subscriber. That doesn't even take into consideration the seer volume of sock-puppet accounts that exist on Reddit as a whole that pads the numbers.
                  Scientists do not coddle ideas. They crash test them. They run them into a brick wall at 60 miles per hour and then examine the pieces.

                  If the idea is sound, the pieces will be that of the wall.

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                  • #10
                    It's still a larger, global sampling than the westboro website.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Magnus View Post
                      It's still a larger, global sampling than the westboro website.
                      I don't know, man. I hear westboro has like, 8 members or some crazy shit.

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                      • #12
                        I'd like to also point out that as an atheist other atheist annoy me.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Craizie View Post
                          I don't know, man. I hear westboro has like, 8 members or some crazy shit.
                          7. They kicked fred out.
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Magnus View Post
                            It's still a larger, global sampling than the westboro website.
                            Based on what? You have no way of knowing how many of those accounts are legitimately subscribed due to association to atheism, how many of those accounts are or aren't sock puppets, how many of them are even used anymore, or how many of them are purely troll accounts only there to troll atheists. Even by your own post there were only ~1400 of those subscribers active at the time.

                            Even then, assuming best case scenario for your assumption, the global population of people who explicitly label themselves as atheist is still ~144,096,900 people, or about 2.01% of the estimated 7.169 billion. That is, of course, assuming that none of the people who identify as non-religious are atheists. That means that r/atheism, assuming that every one of the 2,080,885 subscribers is actually an atheist, only reflects 0.144% of the atheistic community.

                            While, admittedly, the number of people who support the Westboro Baptist Church is a smaller percentage of the overall christian community they are both completely irrelevant as examples of their respective communities as a whole. So, my analogy stands and is supported by the evidence even when the evidence is intentionally skewed to attempt to support your position.
                            Scientists do not coddle ideas. They crash test them. They run them into a brick wall at 60 miles per hour and then examine the pieces.

                            If the idea is sound, the pieces will be that of the wall.

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                            • #15
                              Atheists: Most disliked subset of the population, least likely to be found in prison and/or divorced.

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