Iraq seems to be going well....

[Gasser64]

You're presuming a lot of of competence on the part of the Obama administration.

Never was able to figure that out. At times they're grossly incompetent. Other times they seem very on top of certain things. Its like it comes and goes.

Because they utilize fear and muscle... the only thing those savages respond to.

Yep. I can just see ISIS rolling through town doing their thing, and the locals going "Oh... ok. I get it now. Yeah, we're good. Cool."

[GhostTX]

Never was able to figure that out. At times they're grossly incompetent. Other times they seem very on top of certain things.Its like it comes and goes.



Yep. I can just see ISIS rolling through town doing their thing, and the locals going "Oh... ok. I get it now. Yeah, we're good. Cool."

@bolded. Seriously? Like what...?

[The King]

What's embarrassing is ISIS has done a better job at creating a government, state, and economy better than we ever were.

Because they utilize fear and muscle... the only thing those savages respond to.

That's why some of the middle eastern countries apparently NEED a strong arm dictator instead of the Arab Spring "democracies" obammy was so proud of having a hand in a few years back. Think Libya for instance...

The U.S. screwed up during the Carter era by not backing the Shah of Iran, and Bush found out that Iraq after ousting Saddam was no better if not worse than before.

[SBFORDTECH]

That's why some of the middle eastern countries apparently NEED a strong arm dictator instead of the Arab Spring "democracies" obammy was so proud of having a hand in a few years back. Think Libya for instance...

The U.S. screwed up during the Carter era by not backing the Shah of Iran, and Bush found out that Iraq after ousting Saddam was no better if not worse than before.

I absolutely agree that there are necessary evils in this world. As vile as Saddam and Gaddafi were, they kept some sort of order. We are guilty of turning the coals and heating up the fire pit in the middle east.

[SBFORDTECH]

Maybe not calculated, but allowed and (dare I say) welcomed. A little controlled chaos to keep us important?

You're presuming a lot of of competence on the part of the Obama administration.

I will dare to say that I believe Obama and his former and current members of his administration are far more competent than we would like them to be. The Obama administration is one of the most accomplished administrations that our country has seen. Those accomplishments may not be the will and wishes of the majority of Americans but he is damn sure accomplishing everything he told us he would in 07-08.

[Forever_frost]

Oh he is VERY competent and knows how to play his voting base and how to get his party to do what he wants. No one else could have muscled Obamacare through, or spend 6 years blaming the previous party for a depression and debt that you ran up or losing footing in wars that you claim were over.

The man is very clever.

[Denny]

Oh he is VERY competent and knows how to play his voting base and how to get his party to do what he wants. No one else could have muscled Obamacare through, or spend 6 years blaming the previous party for a depression and debt that you ran up or losing footing in wars that you claim were over.

The man is very clever.

Then what is his motive?

[Tremor14]

tl;dr,IDC, but how is obama the closest thing to a jew? what does that even mean? i'm floored right now.

[SBFORDTECH]

tl;dr,IDC, but how is obama the closest thing to a jew? what does that even mean? i'm floored right now.

He said that himself about a week ago.

[Sean88gt]

I absolutely agree that there are necessary evils in this world. As vile as Saddam and Gaddafi were, they kept some sort of order. We are guilty of turning the coals and heating up the fire pit in the middle east.

Known evil is always better than the unknown. And truth be told, I don't know how evil those guys were. They knew how to keep their people in check and did so.

[helosailor]

I absolutely agree that there are necessary evils in this world. As vile as Saddam and Gaddafi were, they kept some sort of order. We are guilty of turning the coals and heating up the fire pit in the middle east.

Known evil is always better than the unknown. And truth be told, I don't know how evil those guys were. They knew how to keep their people in check and did so.

This is what I've been saying for about 12 years now. For all of their flaws, they kept the shitstorm to a relative dull roar. Now, that shit has been cranked up to 11.

[Gasser64]

@bolded. Seriously? Like what...?

Well, making damn sure they collect their taxes, and clamping down on us and our rights, for starters.

And truth be told, I don't know how evil those guys were. They knew how to keep their people in check and did so.

Always thought that as well. Of course we're told they're the anti christ, when uncle sam decides he wants our support. Sure they did some mean shit. Look who they were dealing with.

[Forever_frost]

Then what is his motive?

For that you have to read his books and listen to him. Fundamental transformation to begin with. He is as anti-colonialist as his father was and he wants to remove the US from power.

[matts5.0]

For that you have to read his books and listen to him. Fundamental transformation to begin with. He is as anti-colonialist as his father was and he wants to remove the US from power.

Dude he is about as constitutionalist as it gets. Ya know that document that you love so much, I don't think it mentions anything about being the world police, or occupying every country on earth. Get over the fact that we can't be waging war non stop and propping up every world leader in every shit hole country. Look around, America is in bad shape, we need to worry about our own for a little bit. Rand is the best chance we have at fixing shit here, shrinking government.

[Forever_frost]

Dude he is about as constitutionalist as it gets. Ya know that document that you love so much, I don't think it mentions anything about being the world police, or occupying every country on earth. Get over the fact that we can't be waging war non stop and propping up every world leader in every shit hole country. Look around, America is in bad shape, we need to worry about our own for a little bit. Rand is the best chance we have at fixing shit here, shrinking government.

Please explain his constitutional power over amnesty, student loans, bailing out car companies, going to war without a declaration by Congress, refusing to defend the border, ignoring Mexican intrusions into the US.