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    (Courthouse News) – The Department of Justice does not have to disclose documents related to a targeted drone strike that killed U.S. citizen Anwar al-Awlaki in 2011, a federal judge ruled.

    The First Amendment Coalition sued the Department of Justice under the Freedom of Information Act in 2012.

    A drone strike in September 2011 killed U.S.-born Anwar al-Awlaki, a propagandist for al Qaeda, in an attack that President Obama called a “success” that was a “tribute to our intelligence community.”

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    The San Rafael-based First Amendment Coalition sought a 2010 legal memo from the Office of Legal Counsel that allegedly “provided a legal analysis and justification for the U.S. government’s targeted killing” of U.S. citizens.

    The group sought “as much of the OLC memo as can be released without harm to legitimate U.S. national security interests.”

    “This would include, at minimum, those portions of the OLC memo discussing and analyzing legal and related issues concerning the selection of U.S. citizens abroad, for targeting with lethal force,” the complaint states.

    The public is entitled to know the government’s legal reasons for targeting U.S. citizens abroad, the Coalition said.

    “Regardless of one’s views about the Obama administration policy in the counterterrorism area, the assertion of the power to lethally target U.S. citizens, and to do so unilaterally, without judicial oversight of any kind, is an extreme step warranting as much scrutiny and public debate as are possible under the circumstances,” the complaint states.

    The Justice Department responded to the Coalition’s request in June 2013, “acknowledging the existence of one responsive OLC opinion … and refusing to confirm or deny the existence of responsive records related to any other agency.”

    The American Civil Liberties Union and New York Times sued the Justice Department for access to similar information about drone strikes and other government-authorized killings of suspected al Qaeda affiliates.

    In response to those complaints, the Justice Department released unclassified documents and the reasons why they were being withheld, and the CIA produced public speeches by Eric Holder and John Brennan defending the government’s use of drones.

    A federal judge in Manhattan found in favor of the Justice Department. The ACLU and the Times appealed.

    The 2nd Circuit ordered the government defendants to submit the withheld documents for in-camera review, and heard oral arguments in October 2013.

    In the California case, the government argued that it is exempt from disclosing a Defense Department memorandum under the deliberative process privilege.

    OLC Deputy Assistant Attorney General John Bies said in a court declaration that disclosing the memorandum would “chill the candid and frank communications necessary for effective governmental decision-making.”

    The government also claimed that the memorandum contained confidential communications that are protected by attorney-client privilege.

    The Free Speech Coalition argued that because the government adopted the memorandum as policy by carrying out a drone strike on a U.S. citizen, it waived its privileges.

    U.S. District Judge Claudia Wilken agreed with the government, and granted summary judgment on the disclosure of the memorandum.

    Wilken disagreed with the Coalition’s argument that the government adopted the memorandum as policy.

    In its motion for summary judgment, the Coalition referred to a leaked “white paper” that set out the government’s legal justification for using drones against U.S. citizens, a document that has not been officially disclosed.

    “Stating that the president has provided Congress with OLC advice ‘related to the subject of’ the white paper is far from an express adoption of the analysis in the DOD memorandum,” Wilken wrote in granting summary judgment.

    The court also found the government’s partial “Glomar response” – neither confirming nor denying the existence of requested documents – was justified because they dealt with classified CIA information.

    The Coalition claimed, among other things, that the CIA acknowledged its involvement in killing Anwar al-Awlaki because former Defense Secretary Leon Panetta was quoted as saying: “Having moved from the CIA to the Pentagon, obviously I have a hell of a lot more weapons available to me in this job than I had in the CIA, although the Predators aren’t bad.”

    Wilken disagreed that this is evidence of CIA involvement in the drone strike in question.

    “The implication that Predators (drones) were ‘available’ to Mr. Panetta when he was director of the CIA is far from official confirmation that the CIA was involved in the targeted killing of al-Awlaki,” Wilken wrote.

    “Plaintiff is seeking information specifically related to the killing of al-Awlaki. The finding that the CIA has made public statements sufficient to disclose a general ‘intelligence interest in drone strikes’ is far from an official disclosure that the CIA received OLC advice regarding the decision to target al-Awlaki,” Wilken wrote.

    “Accordingly, to the extent that the Glomar response pertains to the CIA, the court finds that it is also justified by the CIA Act.”

    Finding the government is exempt from disclosure, Wilken found the court was not required to conduct an in camera review of the memorandum.

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  • #2
    Well its the law, the law is never wrong, we are assholes for wanting to know. Fucking law breakers are pieces of shit. Dont break the law. God damn im so tired of this shit.
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    • #3
      In other news:

      (AP) The Department of Justice reported Friday that Reaper drones were authorized for use against a terror cell located in the United States. This cell, calling themselves "Oath Keepers" alongside noted environmental terrorist Cliven Bundy, made several statements about overthrowing the federal government and refusing to acknowledge it's authority over federal lands.

      While detailed information has not been formally released, officials speaking on the condition of anonymity have reported that a pair of Reaper drones were sent in at dusk on Friday to evaluate the conditions on the ground. Upon seeing the aircraft, the group opened fire on the unmanned drones with small arms fire. In an act of self defense, the aircraft returned fire with Hellfire Missiles, destroying the encampment. Federal law enforcement agencies are on the scene to render aid and to arrest the terror leaders for a later trial.

      Senate Majority Leader, Harry Reid, called the strike a "needed response to the armed uprising against the legally elected government" and hopes that the show of force will dissuade any other anti-government factions from growing violent. Attorney General Eric Holder could not be reached for questions as of the time of this printing.
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      • #4
        Originally posted by Forever_frost View Post
        In other news:

        (AP) The Department of Justice reported Friday that Reaper drones were authorized for use against a terror cell located in the United States. This cell, calling themselves "Oath Keepers" alongside noted environmental terrorist Cliven Bundy, made several statements about overthrowing the federal government and refusing to acknowledge it's authority over federal lands.

        While detailed information has not been formally released, officials speaking on the condition of anonymity have reported that a pair of Reaper drones were sent in at dusk on Friday to evaluate the conditions on the ground. Upon seeing the aircraft, the group opened fire on the unmanned drones with small arms fire. In an act of self defense, the aircraft returned fire with Hellfire Missiles, destroying the encampment. Federal law enforcement agencies are on the scene to render aid and to arrest the terror leaders for a later trial.

        Senate Majority Leader, Harry Reid, called the strike a "needed response to the armed uprising against the legally elected government" and hopes that the show of force will dissuade any other anti-government factions from growing violent. Attorney General Eric Holder could not be reached for questions as of the time of this printing.
        I could honestly see this happening.
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        • #5
          hail hydra?

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          • #6
            On a good note to offset the first judge.



            Federal court: Administration must release memos allowing drone strikes on Americans
            A federal appeals court on Monday ordered the Obama administration to release a redacted version of secret memos justifying the use of drones to kill American citizens abroad.

            The decision was hailed as a victory by civil liberties and media organizations who had sought access to the secret papers. The administration, under public pressure, has vowed to make changes to its lethal drone program but so far has resisted efforts to release documents on the legal justification for using drones to kill American citizens suspected of terrorism overseas.

            The 2nd U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in New York ruled that the administration must provide the redacted documents, because President Obama and senior government officials have commented on the subject.

            Sen. Chuck Grassley, R-Iowa, who has also sought the legal rationale, called the ruling on Monday a "positive development."

            "The targeted killing of American citizens by their own government should be one of the most fundamental reasons to ensure checks and balances are in place," Grassley said in a statement. "Up to this point, the Obama administration has been hiding behind a Cliff's Notes version of the justification that gave no legal analysis for the killings."

            The 2nd U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals ruled in a Freedom of Information Act case brought by the American Civil Liberties Union and two reporters for The New York Times. In 2011, they sought any documents in which Department of Justice lawyers had discussed the highly classified "targeted-killing" program.

            The requests came after a September 2011 drone strike in Yemen killed Anwar al-Awlaki, an Al Qaeda leader who had been born in the United States, and another U.S. citizen, Samir Khan, and after an October 2011 strike killed Abdulrahman al-Awlaki, al-Awlaki's teenage son and also a U.S. citizen. Some legal scholars and human rights activists complained that it was illegal for the U.S. to kill American citizens away from the battlefield without a trial.

            In January 2013, U.S. District Court Judge Colleen McMahon ruled that she had no authority to order the documents disclosed, although she chided the Obama administration for refusing to release them.

            But in an opinion written by 2nd Circuit Judge Jon Newman, a three-judge panel noted that after McMahon ruled, senior government officials spoke about the subject.

            The panel rejected the government's claim that the court could not consider official disclosures made after McMahon's ruling, including a 16-page Justice Department white paper on the subject and public comments by Obama in May in which he acknowledged his role in the al-Awlaki killing, saying he had "authorized the strike that took him out."

            Jameel Jaffer, deputy legal director of the American Civil Liberties Union, said in an email that "the government can't pretend that everything about its targeted killing program is a classified secret while senior officials selectively disclose information meant to paint the program in the most favorable light."

            David E. McCraw, vice president and assistant general counsel of The New York Times Co., said in an email that the 2nd Circuit "reaffirmed a bedrock principle of democracy: The people do not have to accept blindly the government's assurances that it is operating within the bounds of the law. They get to see for themselves the legal justification that the government is working from."

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            • #7
              It doesn't seem like it'd be hard to argue that Yemen is a battlefield. With the USS Cole and the underwear bomber being the more obvious reasons.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by BP View Post
                It doesn't seem like it'd be hard to argue that Yemen is a battlefield. With the USS Cole and the underwear bomber being the more obvious reasons.
                It's still not kosher to target American citizens for assassination. If they get killed in a fight with cops attempting arrest, fine, but killing them outright is wrong.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by YALE View Post
                  It's still not kosher to target American citizens for assassination. If they get killed in a fight with cops attempting arrest, fine, but killing them outright is wrong.
                  They got into a fight with a missile, Yale. The missile asked him to stop resisting.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by DON SVO View Post
                    They got into a fight with a missile, Yale. The missile asked him to stop resisting.
                    The missile said he was coming right for him, and he feared for his safety.
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                    • #11
                      They were wearing a "fuck Obama" shirt...
                      Originally posted by Sean88gt
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Forever_frost View Post
                        ...Upon seeing the aircraft, the group opened fire on the unmanned drones with small arms fire. In an act of self defense, the aircraft returned fire with Hellfire Missiles, destroying the encampment.
                        An unmanned drone has a right to "self defense"? Interesting.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Chili View Post
                          An unmanned drone has a right to "self defense"? Interesting.
                          Oh my...
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                          But, just like condoms and women's rights, I don't believe in them.
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Chili View Post
                            An unmanned drone has a right to "self defense"? Interesting.
                            Not only that, but it's a fucking plane. Can they not fly higher than the bullet would travel?

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by racrguy View Post
                              Not only that, but it's a fucking plane. Can they not fly higher than the bullet would travel?
                              Not to mention hitting a moving target that high, that fast all from an Off hand postion...
                              Originally posted by Sean88gt
                              You can take white off the list. White on anything is the best, including vehicles, women, and the Presidency.
                              Originally posted by Baron Von Crowder
                              You can not imagine how difficult it is to hold a half gallon of moo juice and polish the one-eyed gopher when your doin' seventy-five in an eighteen-wheeler.

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