School locked down when parent doesn't sign in

[sc281]

And they're getting exactly what they asked for. HOORAY FOR NOT HAVING KIDS!

Truth. On all of this.

[jewozzy]

Maybe her kid is an asshole because she's a shitty parent. Doesn't matter IMO

if its happened before then it does matter. especially if there is a trespass warning already on file or if she was told to leave at any point and refused to do so.

[racrguy]

Sooooooooooo, let me ask you something, jewozzy. If she has a trespass warning, how can she come back on the property at all, and why would they call her if they knew she had the warning? Seems a little counterproductive to me, don't you think?

[jewozzy]

Yes, I agree. I'm sure momma had to sign something acknowledging they had to sign in. I would also assume she was told to leave after getting her kid and didn't want to.

[bcoop]

All these school shootings, and everyone screamed for tighter security. These policies are a direct response to public demands, and they make sense. If this had gone down slightly differently, you all would be blasting them for lack of policies like this. This is just another example of someone thinking shit doesn't apply to them for whatever reason. I have no sympathy for her. I'm in and out of schools all day long, and it's a major deal if you're in the building without taking the proper steps for security.


All you clowns saying you'd sue... On what fucking grounds? lmao, horseshit.

I will say, arrest is probably a little excessive in this case. Stick her with a fine and move on down the road.

[Mach1]

So even with this "increased security" she still could have walked in a shot the place up, so much for that idea.

[ceyko]

So even with this "increased security" she still could have walked in a shot the place up, so much for that idea.

Perception of security - much like the TSA checkpoints in the airport.

[SS Junk]

That's a principle...

No, that's a principal. Remember a principal is your pal!

[racrguy]

All these school shootings, and everyone screamed for tighter security. These policies are a direct response to public demands, and they make sense. If this had gone down slightly differently, you all would be blasting them for lack of policies like this. This is just another example of someone thinking shit doesn't apply to them for whatever reason. I have no sympathy for her. I'm in and out of schools all day long, and it's a major deal if you're in the building without taking the proper steps for security.


All you clowns saying you'd sue... On what fucking grounds? lmao, horseshit.

I will say, arrest is probably a little excessive in this case. Stick her with a fine and move on down the road.

I wouldn't be asking for more policies. School shootings are a statistically insignificant problem

[crapstang]

Perception of security - much like the TSA checkpoints in the airport.

Exactly. The school shootings are tragic, but these security steps aren't going to do much if someone actually wanted to go in and kill a bunch of kids. Oh, let me sign in before I go and kill everyone! If in fact she did get a previous "warning", that alone proves the policies are completely useless. I can go waltz in, TWICE (or more).

"They who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."

Sadly, this isn't even a little temporary safety...it's false security.

Unfortunately, the public cried out to the government, offering our freedoms in trade for their services.

[ceyko]

Not to mention contractors and numerous other people just walk into schools daily without any accountability. MAYBE they have temp badges to log their entrance, but they are not entering via the front door. They enter closest to what they are working on...HVAC, Data Centers...etc.

[bcoop]

Not to mention contractors and numerous other people just walk into schools daily without any accountability. MAYBE they have temp badges to log their entrance, but they are not entering via the front door. They enter closest to what they are working on...HVAC, Data Centers...etc.

These are VERY few and far between, generally only on new schools within the first month or so of operation. Past that, you can't get in any door but the front, as they are all locked down now. I used to get buzzed in at the door by the loading docks, because that's where the kitchens are, but that stopped 3 years ago or so. Part of this sign in/license check is especially due to contractors. Nobody wants their kids around a convicted child molester.

[ceyko]

These are VERY few and far between, generally only on new schools within the first month or so of operation. Companies have lost contracts for not signing in and getting a badge. And you can't get in any door except the front door. They are all locked down now. I used to get buzzed in at the door by the loading docks, because that's where the kitchens are, but that stopped 3 years ago or so. You go in the front door, or don't go in at all.

Your experiences (seems like a usual thing between you and I ) vary on this one too. My exposure (which is not daily, but 2-10 projects a year depending on SLED business) is generally different. SOME schools/ISDs do at least provide bades for access, but I'm in a lot of schools without escort mostly.

Some are more relaxed and then a couple I can recall were semi-strict. I will say the one that was the most relaxed on security also had the most armed guards, parking lot checkpoints and such. Which they seemed more interested in treating the students like they were in prison than making sure I was supposed to be there.

I'm not sure if it is job role that may make the difference. Meaning, when I'm on prem for a sales meeting - the behavior is always a lot different than when doing implementation work. Typically sales meetings are at the service center or "Annex". Once implementing staff typically does not want to or can't escort daily at all schools in a district. So badges and/or local support people provide access. I've rarely signed in though over the years. The most I've done is usually at or towards the start of a school year but it quickly goes away once my face in known.

Anyway, my overall perception is that security is still negligible at the schools. There are easy ways around it and I do not perceive people taking it very serious, just following protocol.