Oh my. How times have changed...

[Gargamel]

High school senior jailed, kicked out of school and may lose Army dream because of pocket knife in car

We have become a nation of mindless idiots.....

[Denny]

Zero tolerance and overly-strict rules/laws/regulations is the easiest, most efficient way for people who can't lead or manage, control a population.

[Baron Von Crowder]

when I was a senior, they trained drug dogs that were rescues from the pound at our highschool. One of them went nuts on my truck, presumably since my unfinished breakfast was in a burger king bag in the bed.

they pulled me from class, acted like I was a hardened criminal slangin from my truck. The searched my truck, and came up with two cigarettes. I was laughing at them, the trainers apologized to me when the dog got in the bed and went straight to the half eaten breakfast sandwich. The police didnt think it was nearly as funny as the rest of us there, including the admin. We had a zero tolerance policy, so I had to get punished. One of the cops was cool about it, knowing that it was pretty much bullshit and a waste of his time, while the other seemed like he wanted me to go to jail. I ended up with a ticket, and had to do some in school suspension.

I went to court, and the judge told me he was inclined to throw it out, but couldnt, since I did break the law. I was then 18, and he gave me differed adjudication for my minor in possession of tobacco. I was hesitant, but when he asked if I understood that I would be finned if I got another MIT, I told him I was now 18, and didnt think that would be an issue. He said "well then I guess you wont be back in my court for getting another minor in possession of tobacco, huh"

The principal that I had never met all through high school had to give me ISS, but set it for a time when I wouldn't be missing any school sponsored events, and then they let me out of it early, and dismissed a day because I was done with two days' assignments, plus they needed the room for the kids that needed to be there. It was a joke, and a direct result of the zero tolerance policy.

[Gtracer]

Talking about guns with my co-workers (also gun enthusiast) is against the rules. Apparently the term/word "gun" is on the companies list of "inappropriate content"....like I am looking at sluts or something online while at work...


I am going to have so much trouble with my son when he starts going to school. To me guns are as American as Baseball and hotdogs and yet here we are unable to talk about them.

[Baron Von Crowder]

On a different note, My wife was complaining that the catholic kids at her school that came in late on ash wednesday from going to church in the morning were given an unexcused absence, and yet she has to let her Muslim kids out of class for Salat without any repercussion.

[Forever_frost]

Talking about guns with my co-workers (also gun enthusiast) is against the rules. Apparently the term/word "gun" is on the companies list of "inappropriate content"....like I am looking at sluts or something online while at work...


I am going to have so much trouble with my son when he starts going to school. To me guns are as American as Baseball and hotdogs and yet here we are unable to talk about them.

I had to sit down with my son's teachers and ask if I was going to get a call because he makes everything into a gun. Fortunately, they said "What kid doesn't?"

[juiceweezl]

I carried a pocket knife all through school and often the teacher would ask who had one to borrow when having to open a box or something. Times have changed.

In the article, if it truly is a knife for EMT purposes as the kid claims, then I'd sue everyone I could lay eyes on and go for blood.

[fordracing19]

The times have really changed. I remember getting called to the office and told to stick my rifle behind the seat so someone didnt steal it. This was Ryan high school in Denton in 1996.

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[Gtracer]

I had to sit down with my son's teachers and ask if I was going to get a call because he makes everything into a gun. Fortunately, they said "What kid doesn't?"

So there is hope? I honestly though all was lost and I was going to have to save my vacation days for parent teacher conferences.

I really want to move out to the sticks...just no money for the land


the "sensitivity situation" in America seems to have speed up once Obama took office. Its just been a free for all for activist and overly PC types.

[Cooter]

move out of the ghetto and into the country

[Gtracer]

move out of the ghetto and into the country

That is the plan. You know, it sucks living in the same city for almost 30 years and to look at it now compared to when I grew up...its sad

I talk to my wife all the time about moving to the sticks, maybe in a few years after I finish school and pay a little more on the house, I can sell and find something. I just hope it is before my 6mo old son gets into school. I just cringe at the idea of the environment he will be subjected too.

With all of the lawsuits floating around these days, I sure hope this kid sues though, the fact they found tobacco is an issue for him. But I would attack the probable cause as I am not sure there was any.

[homealone]

I carried a pocket knife all through school and often the teacher would ask who had one to borrow when having to open a box or something. Times have changed.

In the article, if it truly is a knife for EMT purposes as the kid claims, then I'd sue everyone I could lay eyes on and go for blood.

We could have folding blades under 5" and firearms were to be left in your car. One person brought in a revolver to show his buddy at his locker. He got one day (hour) of detention.

[Gtracer]

We could have folding blades under 5" and firearms were to be left in your car. One person brought in a revolver to show his buddy at his locker. He got one day (hour) of detention.

I brought a knife to school as a bunch (4) guys were going to "jump me" so I took a filet knife, pulled the handle off and stuck it in my zip up binder, "just in case".

Showed a buddy and next thing you know I am in the principals office with the schools YAC officer and he was telling me how it was 1/16" short of being illegal. He didnt arrest me as he was my fathers buddy so he only measured the sharpended part vs the entire length which he could have measured as I had removed the handle.

Still got in trouble back then, but there was no "suspension, expulsion, ISS..." Just a school police officer advising me as to why I should never do this again and if I did whom I would have the company of sharing a cell with in the local jail. That was enough for me to not bother anymore...

[SEB]

when I was a senior, they trained drug dogs that were rescues from the pound at our highschool. One of them went nuts on my truck, presumably since my unfinished breakfast was in a burger king bag in the bed.

they pulled me from class, acted like I was a hardened criminal slangin from my truck. The searched my truck, and came up with two cigarettes. I was laughing at them, the trainers apologized to me when the dog got in the bed and went straight to the half eaten breakfast sandwich. The police didnt think it was nearly as funny as the rest of us there, including the admin. We had a zero tolerance policy, so I had to get punished. One of the cops was cool about it, knowing that it was pretty much bullshit and a waste of his time, while the other seemed like he wanted me to go to jail. I ended up with a ticket, and had to do some in school suspension.

I went to court, and the judge told me he was inclined to throw it out, but couldnt, since I did break the law. I was then 18, and he gave me differed adjudication for my minor in possession of tobacco. I was hesitant, but when he asked if I understood that I would be finned if I got another MIT, I told him I was now 18, and didnt think that would be an issue. He said "well then I guess you wont be back in my court for getting another minor in possession of tobacco, huh"

The principal that I had never met all through high school had to give me ISS, but set it for a time when I wouldn't be missing any school sponsored events, and then they let me out of it early, and dismissed a day because I was done with two days' assignments, plus they needed the room for the kids that needed to be there. It was a joke, and a direct result of the zero tolerance policy.

You got punished for 2 cigs and half eaten sandwhich? Why didnt you fight it? Thats some BS there

[SEB]

High school senior jailed, kicked out of school and may lose Army dream because of pocket knife in car

We have become a nation of mindless idiots.....

This is DEF BS!~