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my tin foil hat is perched just right
Putin, or a straw buyer for him, just shorted the shit out of those best positioned to fair the worst when SHTF. He rich.
With Sochi wrapped up, where are those crazy Cossacks? Which side of the issue do they fall on, oh political science minded ones?Ronald Reagan:"Government's view of the economy could be summed up in a few short phrases: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it."
Homer: "Bart...there's 2 things I know about women. Never give them nicknames like "jumbo" or "boxcar" and always keep receipts...it makes you look like a business man."
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Russia issued an ultimatum to Ukrainian sailors in the Crimea to surrender and give up their ships or face attack, Ukraine said.
Russian Admiral Orders Ukraine Ships to Surrender
A pro-Russian activist waves the Russian state, upper, and Russian Navy flags outside an entrance to the General Staff Headquarters of the Ukrainian Navy in Sevastopol, Ukraine, Monday, March 3, 2014. (AP Photo/Andrew Lubimov)
Military.com Mar 03, 2014 | by Richard Sisk
Russian forces backed up an ultimatum issued Monday to Ukrainian sailors in the Crimea to surrender and give up their ships or face attack, Ukrainian military spokesmen said.
The ultimatum with a deadline of early Tuesday morning followed a dramatic confrontation in which Ukrainian sailors at a Crimean base surrounded by Russian troops pledged their allegiance to Ukraine and rejected pleas to defect from renegade Ukrainian Rear Adm. Denis Berezovsky.
Four ships from Russia's Black Sea fleet were blocking the Ukrainian anti-submarine warship Ternopil and the command ship Slavutych from leaving dock in Crimea's Sevastopol harbor following the demand to defect from Crimean Regional Prime Minister Sergey Aksyonov, a Moscow ally, the Associated Press reported.
There were no immediate reports of clashes between Ukrainians loyal to the new government in Kiev and Russian forces in Crimea. However, Aksyonov declared the creation of "Crimea's Naval Forces" and said that Berezovsky was the naval chief.
"The Republic will have its own Navy, which will be commanded by Rear Adm. Berezovsky," Aksyonov told reporters.
Aksyonov ordered Ukrainian sailors to "disregard any commands coming from Ukraine's new self-proclaimed authorities" and warned them not to take orders "for using arms until my personal instructions."
Ukrainian officials charged that Vice Admiral Aleksandr Vitko, commander of Russia's Black Sea fleet, went aboard one of the blockaded Ukrainian ships and ordered the crew to "swear allegiance to the new Crimean authorities, or surrender, or face an attack."
At Ukraine's naval command on Monday morning, officers lined up in the yard of their Sevastopol headquarters, where they were addressed first by Berezovsky and then by the newly-appointed Ukrainian naval commander, Serhiy Haiduk.
The officers broke into applause as Haiduk read them an order from Kiev removing Berezovsky from his position, and told them that Berezovsky was facing treason charges, the Guardian newspaper reported.
"I know my men will stay loyal to their oaths," Haiduk said before the address. "What Berezovsky has done is a matter for him alone. When he brought intruders in here, we did not offer armed resistance as would have been our right, in order to avoid any provocations the other side would like."
In Moscow, Russian officials dismissed reports of surrender demands and naval blockades as "complete nonsense," Russia's Interfax news agency reported.
The escalating tensions in Russian-speaking eastern Ukraine followed the ouster last month of ouster of Ukrainian President Victor Yanukovych, who was backed by Russian President Vladimir Putin.
Putin has since ordered massive military exercises on Ukraine's borders and Russian troops in the Crimea have moved out of their bases in what Ukraine's new government has charged is an occupation of the regional republic.
A senior U.S. administration official told CNN that Russian forces "have complete operational control of the Crimean Peninsula." The official said the U.S. estimates there are 6,000 Russian ground troops backed up by 15,000 sailors with the Black Sea fleet.
Secretary of State John Kerry was due to arrive Tuesday in Kiev in a show of support for the embattled new government. If Putin's provocations continue, Ukraine will "fight," Kerry said Sunday on CBS' Face the Nation.
Kerry called Putin's actions "an incredible act of aggression against the sovereignty of Ukraine."
Also appearing on "Face the Nation," Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel said "this could be a very dangerous situation if this continues in a very provocative way. We have many options, like any nations do. We're trying to deal with the diplomatic focus."
Ukraine Prime Minister Arseniy Yatsenyuk pleaded on Monday for help from the West and stressed that Crimea remained part of Ukraine.
"Any attempt of Russia to grab Crimea will have no success at all. Give us some time," Yatsenyuk said at a news conference with British Foreign Secretary William Hague in the Ukrainian capital of Kiev.
-- Richard Sisk can be reached at richard.sisk@monster.comI wear a Fez. Fez-es are cool
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SEVASTOPOL, Ukraine (AP) — Vladimir Putin ordered tens of thousands of Russian troops participating in military exercises near Ukraine's border to return to their bases as U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry was on his way to Kiev. Tensions remained high in the strategic Ukrainian peninsula of Crimea with troops loyal to Moscow firing warning shots to ward off protesting Ukrainian soldiers.
The massive military exercise in western Russia involving 150,000 troops, hundreds of tanks and dozens of aircraft was supposed to wrap up anyway, so it was not clear if Putin's move was an attempt to heed the West's call to de-escalate the crisis that has put Ukraine's future on the line.
It came as Kerry was on his way to Kiev to meet with the new Ukrainian leadership that deposed a pro-Russian president, and has accused Moscow of a military invasion in Crimea. The Kremlin, which does not recognize the new Ukrainian leadership, insists it made the move in order to protect Russians living there.
On Tuesday, Russian troops who had taken control of the Belbek air base in the Crimea region fired warning shots into the air as around 300 Ukrainian soldiers, who previously manned the airfield, demanded their jobs back.
About a dozen Russian soldiers at the base warned the Ukrainians, who were marching unarmed, not to approach. They fired several warning shots into the air and said they would shoot the Ukrainians if they continued to march toward them.
The shots reflected tensions running high in the Black Sea peninsula since Russian troops — estimated by Ukrainian authorities to be 16,000 strong —tightened their grip on the Crimean peninsula over the weekend.
Ukraine has accused Russia of violating a bilateral agreement on conditions of a Russian lease of a naval base in Crimea that restricts troops movements, but Russia has argued that it was acting within the limits set by the deal.
There was no fighting elsewhere in Crimea early on Tuesday. A supposed Russian ultimatum for two Ukrainian warships to surrender or be seized passed without action from either side, as the two ships remained anchored in the Crimean port of Sevastopol. Russian Defense Ministry spokesman Vladimir Anikin said late Monday that no ultimatum had been issued.
Early on Tuesday, the Kremlin said Putin ordered troops participating in military exercises alongside Russia's western border to return to their permanent bases. The order was in line with an earlier plan to complete the exercise early this week. The massive war games have stoked fears that the Kremlin might use the troops to seize territory in pro-Russian areas of eastern Ukraine.
In Brussels, meanwhile, the ambassadors of NATO's 28 member nations will hold a second emergency meeting on Ukraine on Tuesday after Poland, which borders both Russia and Ukraine, invoked an article calling for consultations when a nation sees its "territorial integrity, political independence or security threatened," the alliance said in a statement.
President Barack Obama has said that Russia is "on the wrong side of history" in Ukraine and its actions violate international law. Obama said the U.S. was considering economic and diplomatic options that will isolate Russia, and called on Congress to work on an aid package for Ukraine.
In return, Russia's agricultural oversight agency issued a statement Tuesday declaring the reversal of its earlier decision to lift the ban on imports of U.S. pork. It said the existing U.S. system of checks don't guarantee its safety.
Putin's economic advisor, Sergei Glazyev, said that Russia can develop financial ties with other nations to offset any potential Western sanctions.
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Originally posted by Pokulski-Blatz View PostThe most annoying thing about all of this, is this is a lot like the 2nd Iraq war. We look like hypocrites. Leave them alone, let them make war or whatever.
A lot of the comments on these stories I'm reading are saying the same thing. On the other hand, Ukraine didn't send a hijacked airliner into the Kremlin. Lots of shades of grey on the whole thing.
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